OK, so we've had a lot of criticism on these boards. I was one of many who did not like Civ 5; I checked this forum probably 20 times a day before it came out, but I was so disappointed I haven't played since Thursday. It's definitely the biggest entertainment-related disappointment I can remember. Judging from the polls, about 1/4 to 1/3 of this forum (a forum of die-hard Civilization series loyalists who pre-ordered without a second thought) also does not like the game very much either. At this point, it is not clear if the streamlining/dumbing down/whatever is the result of a deliberate decision to attract casuals, or because they didn't really have time to finish the game. The company, for a variety of cynical marketing reasons, cannot tell us the true answer if it something like "yes we couldn't finish on time but shipped it anyway for the money!" And that is perfectly fine with me. I'm an adult, I understand the way the world works and why they have to behave the way they do. I even understand why they might have to ship an unfinished product, especially during a recession. They've built up enough goodwill with me over the years that I'd forgive them if they were still committed to improving the game. Their response will basically tell us their motivation. If they were trying to attract casuals, then that means that the company is happy with the product and game design largely the way it is, even if lots of long-time fans are seriously disappointed. If that is the case, the likelihood of them ever changing it is basically zero since we are not their target market. On the other hand (the hand we all hope for), is that they just ran out of time, and the odds are good that the game might still end up being "finished". So I would like to hear from Firaxis about how they feel about Civ launch and what their plan is going forward. A lot of it will be empty marketing, and again, we are all adults and understand that that is OK and a symptom of the modern world. But what exactly they say should give an indication of whether or not Civ 5 is something they are proud of, or something they are committed to fixing. The big question is, when will we here from them? I'm really surprised I'm making this topic; it's been almost a week and despite all the complaining, no clamoring for an official statement? I guess I'll start the clamoring! Please clamor along with me, perhaps it will make some sort of difference? Moderator Action: Edited the title - please refrain from user-specific threads/titles. Talking about Firaxis/2k in general is okay.