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I want to move to Vancouver, Canada from Chicago, USA...

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by BrutalGodProjek, Aug 14, 2005.

  1. BrutalGodProjek

    BrutalGodProjek Chieftain

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    How can I move from USA to Canada?

    Me and my family are thinking of moving to Vancouver. We live here in Chicago, I have been here all my life. I never been to another country or anything. We mainly want to move to canada because of free health care. Is their free health care in Canada? Its very important for my parents, you see they both have diabetes and medicine and treatment is super expensive. Here in Chicago we have a free learning hospital and other things that help us for their conditions. So, its important that there is free health care so that we can take this heavy burden off of them. Anyone know?

    We chose Vancouver because of how beautiful it is, and also because it has has one of the highest standards of living in the world for about 4 years straight. Plus, it has beautiful mountains surrounding it and it just rocks, I am really interested in living there.

    I want to start over, my life has been pretty crazy. Constant fighting in school, drugs, gang warfare and just all out crazy. I can't stay here, I want to have a normal life. I want to feel like I can walk the streets, without having to constantly turn my back to see if I will get shot again or jumped for no reason. I just want to start over, new friends, new job, a place for me to call home.

    Now, where do I go to get more info about moving to canada? I can we rent a apartment from here in the states? Is it possible? What would be the best mode of transportation from here to Van? Air, train? We would sell everything mostly besides clothes and some personal stuff, we will get rid of everything even car... We will buy everthing there. We are selling the big house we have now, and Vancouver is really looking cool to us? The land of opportunity for me and my folks.

    How is employment there? I would live with my parents there in Van for a while and then get my own crib and job. Man Im stoked just talking about it. Please guys help me out, I would EXTREMELY appreciate the help!
     
  2. Alpine Trooper

    Alpine Trooper AllCiv

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    If you are serious, realize that not all health care is provided free in Canada. You will still require coverage and will pay for your free health care through taxes. You will however pay drastically lower costs for medicine in comparison to the United States. You will also reap the benefits of living in the country which commits the most research and development to diabetes.

    With that said, you are in for a surprising awakening concerning health care in Canada. Yes, if you fall extremely ill you will be treated in an emergency room free of all charges. Yes if you visit your family doctor or local clinic it will cost you nothing. But do not expect your medication, dental care, eye car, or diabetes equipment to be covered.

    The world wide web is plentiful. I'll leave it to you to research more on the country if you are actually serious. Please however, do not move here and not contribute to society because far too many Americans and foreigners alike take advantage of this system we have and it will not be tolerated much longer.
     
  3. Bugfatty300

    Bugfatty300 Buddha Squirrel

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    You're moving to Canada for free health care but you don't know for sure if they have free health care?

    And despite popular myth in America, Vancouver and any major Canadian city is also plagued by crime.

    You should seriously study up on this more.

    It seems you're going blindly into a whole new country where you expect to find a utopia. Lots of people thought that to when they came to America. Doesn't always work out that way.
     
  4. BrutalGodProjek

    BrutalGodProjek Chieftain

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    Thank for your comments. I am deadly serious, I dont know how else to put it, would want to be in Canada by new years. I will contribute, I REALLY want to work, my job is pathetic and I really want to work and live there and have a family there, I will be contributing as much as possible, I WANT TO BE A CANADIAN! lol thats just the way I feel man, I know its strong but I wont leech, I want a life, and the new start will help A LOT.
     
  5. BrutalGodProjek

    BrutalGodProjek Chieftain

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    I know theres crime. The point here is, that here I am knowed and lots of people woundlt mind seeing me dead, serioulsy. Over there, I would be nobody just another person. I am not necessarily going for a utopia, I just want a new life in a new country. Is that so bad?

    The free health care is for my parents, without it they may die. Thats why its important to me.
     
  6. Yaniv

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    I work in a moving company (for goods, not people), though I am not going to advertise in this post.
    I can tell you that moving your household goods from Chigago to Vancouver is quite expensive, as it is a long land transport. Moving most of your house can cost several thousand dollars. Even moving a small amount of clothes and personal items can be expensive as well.
    Also, unless you drive the car, it would be wise to sell and buy a new one in Canada.

    Driving to Vancuover in a car can take a long time.
    If only one person is moving, probably air flight is the best option- maybe not the cheapest.
    If a few more, I would probably with the train.
    For he whole family, renting a car and driving it may be the cheapest option

    As for finding a place to live, you should contact the Canadian embassy in the US
     
  7. BrutalGodProjek

    BrutalGodProjek Chieftain

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    Thank you. Yeah, we only plan on transporting some clothes and small personal items(pictures, some documents, other things,)(no furniture or electorinis and so on non of that) so we will probably go train, probably cheaper than air. Umm, I gotta contact a canadian embassy for that, huh? Ok, will do. We want to have a place to live when we get there, obviously.
     
  8. Mathilda

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    I would advise you to study this web site about immigration to Canada very carefully.
    Most countires, Canada including don't just welcome everybody who just wants to come. You have to be able to convince them that you will benefit their country somehow, at the least be able to support yourself, instead of being a burden to their society. So if you have a profession and can find a job you'd probably be ok. But for your parents it might be harder. I mean why would Canada want them there?
    On a good side Canada looks a lot more welcoming (after a very quick look at that website) than some European countires for example.
    This is far more important than trying to work out whether to take the plane or the train.
     
  9. Godwynn

    Godwynn March to the Sea

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    I have the feeling if you move to Vancouver you may find the same thing. I believe mose major cities have those problems.
     
  10. sysyphus

    sysyphus So they tell me

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    We do, but on a far smaller scale. The murder rates here are similar to those of western Europe, almost 4 fold lower than in the US. Petty crime (like break ins and the like) are a little bit higher here than in the US, again, similar to western Europe.

    @BrutalGodProjek: It's nice you've considered our country as a place to live, and indeed, don't think you're walking into some kind of utopia, but it's worth trying out, you could always change your mind and go back to America if it's not your cup of tea. I've known a number of Americans who moved up here, some left and some stayed.

    Your immigration won't be automatic or easy, I suggest you secure work before you move. If you have any specific skills, that may make immigration easier as per certain NAFTA rules.
     
  11. amadeus

    amadeus The Choice of a New Generation

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    No, because nothing is free.
     
  12. muppet

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    Healthcare is cheap, but not free in BC or AB:
    http://www.healthservices.gov.bc.ca/msp/infoben/premium.html

    Healthcare is "free" in other provinces, like SK:
    http://www.health.gov.sk.ca/ps_coverage_start_pg.html

    By "free", it means Saskatchewan's provincial income tax is higher than BC or Alberta. Obviously, someone has to pay the doctors.. so it's gotta come from somewhere! Also, assuming you're an adult, your parents are considered a separate family for health coverage in BC, so not eligible for the family of 3 or more volume discount under one plan.
     
  13. sysyphus

    sysyphus So they tell me

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    Air is free. :p
     
  14. Bugfatty300

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    For now it is.....for now..... :hmm:

    I mean, drinking water used to be free also. :p
     
  15. sysyphus

    sysyphus So they tell me

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    :lol: Air will always be free. Breathable air on the other hand...
     
  16. Narz

    Narz keeping it real

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    Oxygen bars already exist in many countries.

    People will try to make a buck wherever they can.

    BGP, good luck whatever you choose to do.
     
  17. Flak

    Flak vBülletin Förum

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    Well if you truly want to immigrate, you should understand that you're going to need a visa. However relations between the U.S. and Canada are pretty smooth. I believe you can stay six consecutive months without a visa. If you want to work at any point, in theory atleast, you most definitely need a visa. That means you'll need a sponsor. This is not so easy to accomplish. I would suggest that if you really want to move, find one of the more peaceful place in the United States. Is free healthcare really that big of a deal for you right now? If yes, you should also be aware that that free healthcare may not extend to non-citizens.
     
  18. ybbor

    ybbor Will not change his avata

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    oh sysyphus...
     
  19. Flak

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    Ok I've looked at it a bit more. There are two ways to approach this: From a realistic point of view and a theoretical point of view:

    Theoretical
    1. If you want to work or otherwise permanently live there, you'll need a visa. To accomplish either of these things, you'll need a sponsor. You could also be a technical specialist but this requires some siginificant education and experience in some particular fields. You're also required to inform them before attempting to enter if you've ever broken the law.

    Reality
    2. You can go up there without anything more than a birth certificate. I would highly suggest you get a passport, but it's not necessary. Many Americans go up there and work at all sorts of jobs (and vice-versa). It's probably not that big of a deal, unless you become famous or rich, or break the law, thus attracting attention to yourself. If you want peace and quiet, as in the U.S., I'd suggest someplace with a low population density, probably Western Canada. Some pretty country in those parts. Also you DON'T have free healthcare there unless you are on a valid work or family visa. And with the work visa, you actually have to be working to qualify for the state insurance.


    There's a lot of information on the internet. If you know anybody up there, that's likely a big bonus for information on local jobs and stuff.
     
  20. Damnyankee

    Damnyankee Honest Abe

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    When I went to Alaska, I stopped in Vancover for two days. Very beautiful I say. Not to mention that a US dollar goes a long way in Canada.
     

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