Ideas for C2C

[Brackenspore]

Hello. I would like to offer a few ideas that the mod-developers and other gamers can implement if they want.

Geocentrism (x41)

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocentric_model
Requires: Machinery, Weather Lore
Leads to: Gnosticism
Special Abilities:
Astrology School: +1
Enables: The Almagest (World Wonder)
The Almagest

Spoiler :

+7 , +20% , +3 (Great Scientist)
+1 Trade Route
+8 Education/Turn
Requires City Size of at least 6
Requires Astrology School
Obsolete with Heliocentrism
5000

Heliocentrism (x54)

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism
Requires: Navigation
Leads to: Scientific Method
Special Abilities:
First to Discover Receives a Great Admiral
+15% Faster Construction of Observatory
Enables: The Rudolphine Tables (World Wonder)
The Rudolphine Tables

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolphine_Tables
+12 , +3 , +2 (Great Scientist)
+2 Trade Routes
Can turn 1 Citizen into Scientist
+2
+15 Education/Turn
Requires City Size of at least 13
Obsolete with Radar
10500

Gnosticism (x42)

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism
Requires: Heocentrism
Leads to: Theology
Special Abilities:
First to Discover Receives a Great Prophet
+1 for Shrine, Library, Mathematics Academy, Apothecary Shop, Fortune Teller
Enables: Nag Hammadi library (World Wonder)
Nag Hammadi library

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Hammadi_library
+4 , +4 , +2 (Great Prophet)
+50% in this City
+8 Education/Turn
Requires City Size of at least 6
Requires Library
Requires Bricks or Cement or Marble
5500 (Double Production Speed with Marble)

 

[Brackenspore]

Transdisciplinarity (x83)

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transdisciplinarity
Requires: Computer Networks
Special Abilities:
Computer Network: +7
Design Studio: +7
Laboratory: +7
Nuclear Plant: +7
Robotics Lab: +7
Enables: UNESCO (World Wonder)
UNESCO

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNESCO
+3 , +4 , +5 , +2 (Great Scientist)
+15% in All Cities
+15% in All Cities
+35% production speed of Celebrity, Programmer, Ecologist and Software Developer
18 Education/Turn
Requires Computer Network (5 total)
Requires City Size of at least 16
72600

Institutionalisation of science (x67)

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science
Requires: Nitroglycerin
Special Abilities:
First to Discover Receives a Great Statesman
University: +2
Enables: The Nobel Foundation (World Wonder)
The Nobel Foundation

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Foundation
+5 , +10 , +2 (Great Scientist)
+20% in All Cities
+5% in All Cities
20 Education/Turn
Requires City Size of at least 13
17000

 

[Brackenspore]

New Urbanism (x87)

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Urbanism
Requires: Urban Culture
Leads to: Knowledge Management
Special Abilities:
Public Transportation: +1
Velodrome: +2
Bicycle Shop: +6
Enables: Garden City (National Wonder)
Garden City

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_city_movement
+4 , +10 , +2 (Great Doctor)
+10
+2 , , for Farms and Vertical Farms in All Cities
Requires Green or Public Works
22275

Religious renaissance (x85)

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Age (and occultism)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Orthodox_Church
and etc.
Requires: Counterculture
Special Abilities:
First to Discover Receives a Great Prophet
+50% Faster Construction of Terrorist’s Compound
Televangelist Studio: +4
+3 in All Cities with Divine Cult, Free Church, Prophet, State Church or Theocracy
+6 in All Cities with Intolerant or Propaganda
-10% in All Cities
-10% in All Cities

 

[Brackenspore]

Pseudoscience (x85)

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience
Requires: Counterculture
Special Abilities:
+50% Faster Construction of Psychic Advisor
Psychic Advisor: +2 , +2
+10% in All Cities
-10% in All Cities
Enables: Area 51 (World Wonder)
Area 51

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_51
+2 , +10 , +15% , +2 (Great Artist)
+3 from TV Studio
Provides 5 Hit Movies, +1
Requires City Size of at least 13
79000

Patronage (x41)

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patronage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Maecenas
Requires: Musical Notation, Poetry
Leads to: Civil Service
Special Abilities:
First to Discover Receives a Great Merchant
Bardic Circle: +1
Music School: +1
Enables: Aeneid (World Wonder)
Aeneid

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeneid
+3 , +5 , +2 (Great Artist)
Free Odeon in Every City
5 Tourism/Turn
Requires City Size of at least 6
5500

Artificial Stars
Enables: Dyson sphere (World Wonder)
Dyson sphere

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere
+20 , +20 , +8 (Great Engineer)
+70% in All Cities
+1 Free Engineer in All Cities
Requires City Size of at least 25
1100000

 

[Brackenspore]

Expressionism
Enables: Chilehaus (World Wonder)
Chilehaus

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilehaus
+5 , +7 , +2 (Great Statesman)
Can Turn 2 Citizens into Artist
+30% Faster Construction of Modern Offices
Requires City Size of at least 6
8 Tourism/Turn
32120

Surrealism
Enables: The Dali Theatre and Museum
The Dali Theatre and Museum

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalí_Theatre_and_Museum
+10 , +4 (Great Artist)
+40%
+2 Free Artist
15 Tourism/Turn
38500

Acoustics
Enables: Organ Hall (Building)
Organ Hall

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipe_organ
+2 , +5
-10.00 for building maintenance
+2 if is State
+2 if is State
Can Turn 1 Citizen into Artist
Requires City Size of at least 6
Requires Woodwind Instruments
2800

 

[Brackenspore]

Mass surveillance
Enables: Telescreen (Building)
Telescreen

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescreen
+10
+12 with Totalitarianism
+4 with Technocracy
+4 with Democracy
Requires Access to Power
Requires Plastic
26675

Droids
Special Abilities: (or event)
Rise of the Machines (when you discover Droids): +10 , +10 , -50% , -50% in All Cities for next 30 turns.

 

[Brackenspore]

Mythological Bestiary
Enables: Hieracosphinx Breeder (Building), Qilin Breeder (Building), Pegasus Breeder (Building) Phoenix Breeder (Building), Jackalope Breeder (Building), Quetzalcoatl Breeder (Building), Rainbow Serpent Breeder(Building), Noblegarden (National Wonder)
Hieracosphinx Breeder
+4 , +10
Provides 1 Hieracosphinx
+200% with Folklore
Requires Culture (African)
Requires Organic Computers
67000
Qilin Breeder
+4 , +10
Provides 1 Qilin
+200% with Folklore
Requires Culture (Asian)
Requires Organic Computers
67000
Pegasus Breeder
+4 , +10
Provides 1 Pegasus
+200% with Folklore
Requires Culture (European)
Requires Organic Computers
67000
Phoenix Breeder
+4 , +10
Provides 1 Phoenix
+200% with Folklore
Requires Culture (Middle Eastern)
Requires Organic Computers
67000
Jackalope Breeder
+4 , +10
Provides 1 Jackalope
+200% with Folklore
Requires Culture (North American)
Requires Organic Computers
67000
Quetzalcoatl Breeder
+4 , +10
Provides 1 Quetzalcoatl
+200% with Folklore
Requires Culture (South American)
Requires Organic Computers
67000
Rainbow Serpent Breeder
+4 , +10
Provides 1 Rainbow Serpent
+200% with Folklore
Requires Culture (Oceanian)
Requires Organic Computers
67000

 

[Brackenspore]

Noblegarden
+3 , +3 , +15 , +4 (Great Artist)
+6 from Hieracosphinx, Qilin, Pegasus, Phoenix, Jackalope, Quetzalcoatl, Rainbow Serpent
Requires City Size of at least 15
Requires Organic Computers
Requires Cybernetic Chloroplasts
Requires Access to Power
Requires Anti-Gravity Field Generators
205000

Spoiler :

Anyone know russian language?

Chivalric romance (x49)

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalric_romance
Requires: Armored Cavalry
Leads to: Tournaments, Humanism, Acoustics
Special Abilities:
First to Discover Receives a Great Artist
Theatre: +1
National Epic: +6
Heroic Epic: +6
Enables: Chansonnier (National Wonder), Le Morte d'Arthur (World Wonder)
Chansonnier

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chansonnier
+6 , +2 (Great Artist)
+100% Birth Rate
+4
6 Education/Turn
Can be built by Great Artist
Requires City Size of at least 6
6600
Le Morte d'Arthur

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Morte_d'Arthur
+2 , +4 , +4 (Great Artist)
+2 from Artists in All Cities
+6 from Great Military Instructors in All Cities
50 Education/Turn
Requires City Size of at least 6
7500

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Interesting set of ideas. I have had the buildings and units for Gnosticism sitting around waiting for some ideas on where it could be placed.

As with the other religions I would make it a "dead end" tech and have Geocentrism be a requirement for it and Theology.

 

[Thunderbrd]

I do like a lot of this. Many of these techs should probably be fleshed out just a little more but yeah, pretty good stuff.

The Droids event though is a concept I plan to eventually work out much more deeply. And Area 51 is kinda in the game already via the National Wonder Top Secret Base. (Though I suppose there could be both.)

 

[Brackenspore]

I do like a lot of this. Many of these techs should probably be fleshed out just a little more but yeah, pretty good stuff.

The Droids event though is a concept I plan to eventually work out much more deeply. And Area 51 is kinda in the game already via the National Wonder Top Secret Base. (Though I suppose there could be both.)

For me Area 51 is more pop-cultural phenomenon (the X-files, Grey aliens and etc.) than military and spy base . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_X-Files

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Have you modded these into your version of C2C? If you have it would be quicker if we took your copy, checked it over and then included in the main mod as optional content where it could be discussed and examined more easily.

 

[Brackenspore]

No. It's only dreams. I don't know how to do mods .

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Almost all of what you have here just requires XML modding and that is suggested as the first place to start

 

[Faustmouse]

Why is Dyson Sphere at Artifical Stars?

 

[tmv]

Please, no Dyson Sphere. The other ideas may have merit, but the Dyson Sphere like it is shown e.g. in Star Trek is physically impossible. There would be no gravity on the inside. If you look it up Dyson himself never spoke about a sphere at all, but of a large set of satellites in 1 AU distance from the sun.

The only way to get a workable Dyson Sphere would be to inhabit the outside, and then you must find a way to get the energy from the sun to the other side of the sphere.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Attached is the quick draft of the Geocentrism tech and its effects and wonder. Extract it into the Modules/My_Mods folder to see it in game. Use Notepad or Notepad++ to look at and edit the files.

 

[Thunderbrd]

Please, no Dyson Sphere. The other ideas may have merit, but the Dyson Sphere like it is shown e.g. in Star Trek is physically impossible. There would be no gravity on the inside. If you look it up Dyson himself never spoke about a sphere at all, but of a large set of satellites in 1 AU distance from the sun.

The only way to get a workable Dyson Sphere would be to inhabit the outside, and then you must find a way to get the energy from the sun to the other side of the sphere.

Regardless of how it is constructed, the concept is still sound and in-game, it's not as important to be tremendously concerned about the intricacies of its design. I've been wondering why we don't have it included in the mod yet to be honest. Core futurist experts (talking the scientists here) do predict its eventual inevitability that once we reach a certain point in civilization we'll create one or more somewhere.

 

[Faustmouse]

Please, no Dyson Sphere. The other ideas may have merit, but the Dyson Sphere like it is shown e.g. in Star Trek is physically impossible. There would be no gravity on the inside. If you look it up Dyson himself never spoke about a sphere at all, but of a large set of satellites in 1 AU distance from the sun.

The only way to get a workable Dyson Sphere would be to inhabit the outside, and then you must find a way to get the energy from the sun to the other side of the sphere.

I'm pretty sure that by the time you would be capable of building such a massive object, the problems you listed are very easy to solve. We just can't comprehend it, like the whole galactic era (or even the later TH era), which is more of a concern for me.
Everything beyond the the 50 or so years is purely fiction and since this is a game, it can be added just for fun. It is probably much more wrong in terms of really than the PH era.

 

[Brackenspore]

I'm pretty sure that by the time you would be capable of building such a massive object, the problems you listed are very easy to solve. We just can't comprehend it, like the whole galactic era (or even the later TH era), which is more of a concern for me.
Everything beyond the the 50 or so years is purely fiction and since this is a game, it can be added just for fun. It is probably much more wrong in terms of really than the PH era.

Yes, yes

Add (x49 has only two Techs now)
Chivalric romance (x49)

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalric_romance
Requires: Armored Cavalry
Leads to: Tournaments, Humanism, Acoustics
Special Abilities:
First to Discover Receives a Great Artist
Theatre: +1
National Epic: +6
Heroic Epic: +6
Enables: Chansonnier (National Wonder), Le Morte d'Arthur (World Wonder)
Chansonnier

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chansonnier
+6 , +2 (Great Artist)
+100% Birth Rate
+4
6 Education/Turn
Can be built by Great Artist
Requires City Size of at least 6
6600
Le Morte d'Arthur

Spoiler :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Morte_d'Arthur
+2 , +4 , +4 (Great Artist)
+2 from Artists in All Cities
+6 from Great Military Instructors in All Cities
50 Education/Turn
Requires City Size of at least 6
7500