Troy Bruckner
Prince
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- Jan 26, 2019
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I am highly annoyed after putting a lot of effort into carbon scrubbing and reducing my footprint to zero only to find out that I can't scrub other players' carbon.
Such requests haven't worked in the real world, except via lip service. Here's one spot where the game can be realistic.The lack of player agency to do anything about other players' CO2 output is rather frustrating. At the very least, we should be able to request that they reduce emissions, call sessions of congress to stop them, etc.
But a request, and subsequent ignoring of the request should create grievances the same as any other request.Such requests haven't worked in the real world, except via lip service. Here's one spot where the game can be realistic.
Such requests haven't worked in the real world, except via lip service. Here's one spot where the game can be realistic.
The problem is that in real life the economic sanctions would be asked for by third tier economies against first tier economies and would be barely noticeable. I don't think China, the US, India, Russia, Japan, and Germany (the top 6 Carbon emitters according to 1 quick chart I looked at) are going to care if low-industrialized countries want to sanction them.True, but I predict that sometime in the future in real life there will start being some economic sanctions over these issues. Well maybe that's too optimistic ,but they should be in the game.
That's true but the carbon goes everywhere. If I have a net negative in my carbon footprint you'd think it would take some of other civs'.The problem is that in real life the economic sanctions would be asked for by third tier economies against first tier economies and would be barely noticeable. I don't think China, the US, India, Russia, Japan, and Germany (the top 6 Carbon emitters according to 1 quick chart I looked at) are going to care if low-industrialized countries want to sanction them.
It must be something within the way the program is written. I think it is a missed opportunity for Firaxis to allow players to have some fun with the game. I was looking forward to letting a game run and seeing if I could scrub all the carbon and refreeze the ice caps.That's true but the carbon goes everywhere. If I have a net negative in my carbon footprint you'd think it would take some of other civs'.
The problem is that in real life the economic sanctions would be asked for by third tier economies against first tier economies and would be barely noticeable. I don't think China, the US, India, Russia, Japan, and Germany (the top 6 Carbon emitters according to 1 quick chart I looked at) are going to care if low-industrialized countries want to sanction them.
That's true but the carbon goes everywhere. If I have a net negative in my carbon footprint you'd think it would take some of other civs'.
I was simply replying to someone else already talking about real life.I don't think that we need to consider the real life political situation. The in-game situation isn't great. Let's focus on that.
Such requests haven't worked in the real world, except via lip service. Here's one spot where the game can be realistic.
The problem is that in real life the economic sanctions would be asked for by third tier economies against first tier economies and would be barely noticeable. I don't think China, the US, India, Russia, Japan, and Germany (the top 6 Carbon emitters according to 1 quick chart I looked at) are going to care if low-industrialized countries want to sanction them.
This should be disabled in the game, it is not factual at all. Our solar system is heating up and the planets with it. There is proof of this if anyone looks in the right places. Most main stream academics are stuck with their chosen ideas but truth is we live in an electric Universe. Electromagnetic in fact, since the planet is not heating up due to man, this should be disabled as an annoyance. There should be bonuses in the game for being friendly to the planet rather then raping it. I am just a guy who researches topics for past 45 years. Adding my two cents to the global warming thing.
I didn't want to make it this a political discussion. I just want the logical ability to scrub other players' carbon.
No.
Wait...you cannot reduce the global carbon already emitted of other civs? But the tooltip thingy suggested you could...
Did they lie to me through tooltips?
I am highly annoyed after putting a lot of effort into carbon scrubbing and reducing my footprint to zero only to find out that I can't scrub other players' carbon.
I'm not sure what you mean by "political discussion." I see no political discussion in this thread.
That said, I think the problem with your "logical ability" is your faulty premise. You're assuming that a player's carbon emissions remain traceable to the player that produced the emission. But, that's not the way it works -- scientifically. Carbon is emitted into the atmosphere and becomes all players' problem.
There has been quite a bit of research and development into industrial carbon scrubbers, but so far it doesn't seem like a viable solution to carbon emissions. Perhaps Civ6 could add this tech to the game and allow players to build carbon scrubbers on a large enough scale to create a global negative carbon footprint.