If Drafted, Would You Serve?

Would you serve in the military if drafted?

  • I live in the U.S.A. and I volunteered for the military.

    Votes: 9 6.7%
  • I live in the U.S.A. and I would serve.

    Votes: 28 20.7%
  • I live in the U.S.A. and I would not serve.

    Votes: 33 24.4%
  • I live in another country without mandatory military service and I volunteered for the military.

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • I live in another country without mandatory military service and I would serve.

    Votes: 15 11.1%
  • I live in another country without mandatory military service and I would not serve.

    Votes: 22 16.3%
  • I live in a country with mandatory military service, but I would have volunteered anyways.

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • I live in a country with mandatory military service and I will serve.

    Votes: 15 11.1%
  • I live in a country with mandatory military service and I will not serve. (Please elaborate.)

    Votes: 7 5.2%

  • Total voters
    135
The trends in the voting and the comments here are a sad statement of the condition of western civilization. Listen! I think I can hear the barbarians at the gates already.....
 
I am from Canada, and we have no Conscription, obviously. If we did, we might have a military that is somewhat half-way decent, but we don't, now do we?

I would serve, if conscripted. I have shot na Gun before, but was absolutely terrible. I cannot shoot, I have p[retty severely visually impaired, I require Glasses, I have terrible depth perception, am bad at running, etc., so I would make a bad soldier, but maybe I could be a clery, or have a monkey-work job like that. But anyway, I would serve, if called upon, just likely not as a soldier.
 
Norlamand said:
The trends in the voting and the comments here are a sad statement of the condition of western civilization. Listen! I think I can hear the barbarians at the gates already.....
Sorry, I was drunk and didn't find the key.
 
I think I'd do what a lot of you are saying. If the nation was under threat then yes. But not for a war in Iraq.

Isn't it a human right to be able to refuse the draft on basis of the war being against your morality?
 
the mormegil said:
Isn't it a human right to be able to refuse the draft on basis of the war being against your morality?
You would think so.....but.....no....not really. :mischief: You can't cherry-pick which wars you would refuse to be drafted into. Objectors file to be excluded from ALL wars.
 
Shame that.

If you object and it's accepted, can you still join the Home Guard?
 
It all depends on the circumstances. If it was an Imperialist war, then no. Otherwise, I'd go if I was drafted. I'd only volunteer if the United States was actually getting invaded.
 
rmsharpe said:
Both. Discipline in our soldiers...the prisoners, I'll handle personally.

If you support the war so much, why don't you join the Army?
 
My country calls on me to sacrifice my citizenship and security for the wellbeing of my fellow countrymen and loved ones.

Of course I would serve. Even if the original cause for the Iraqi war was unjust (IMHO), keeping it secure is becoming more and more apparently necessary.

A man is nothing if not for his word and his honor. Though going to Iraq is not my first choice in life, if fate plots it out for me I have an obligation to return everything this country has offered me with my service and, if need be, my life.
 
I live in country with Conscription, and I was drafted last year. I managed to get permission to go the University, and after I'm done with it I'll have to talk to the military guys and hopefully I won't be forced to serve. I will be hard, though, because I was considered fit and because the Army likes alot people who graduated in Industrial Engeneering(since we study Logistics). At least when you're drafted after College you become a Tenent, not a recruit.

But if they called me, of course I would go to war. It's much better then the other option the brazilian state offers us in wartime: the firing squad.
 
if i was to be drafted, and got the notice. i whold flee the nation, my question is, when bying a plain ticket, whold the air line be able to tell u have been drafted and refuse to give u a ticket? or is ther like a 1-2 day time period befor ther notifed leveing a gap for me to get away. i live in tx, so its a few hour drive to mexico, and its easy enofe to get into usa, so i t cant be that hard geting into mexico, and from thear i can leve for iceland
 
Vietcong said:
if i was to be drafted, and got the notice. i whold flee the nation, my question is, when bying a plain ticket, whold the air line be able to tell u have been drafted and refuse to give u a ticket? or is ther like a 1-2 day time period befor ther notifed leveing a gap for me to get away. i live in tx, so its a few hour drive to mexico, and its easy enofe to get into usa, so i t cant be that hard geting into mexico, and from thear i can leve for iceland

I'm not sure about Texas or the US in general, but around here a draft for the (normal) military service looks like this: you get a letter to your home address, for which you have to sign that you received it, which states that you are drafted and should report to some military facility. If you refuse to accept the letter, military police will come and check whether you are still living there. BUT: the mailman has about a week to deliver the letter (about 3 tries) before he sends it back - so here is your chance to escape. Once you accepted the letter you will also have some time before going to the military facility you are required to go - during that time you are not forbidden to go on an international holiday. So this would be your second chance to escape the draft. Once you went to the military facility it gets much harder. You'd have to apply for some days off and then move out of the country.

Good luck!
 
Toasty said:
My country calls on me to sacrifice my citizenship and security for the wellbeing of my fellow countrymen and loved ones.

Of course I would serve. Even if the original cause for the Iraqi war was unjust (IMHO), keeping it secure is becoming more and more apparently necessary.

A man is nothing if not for his word and his honor. Though going to Iraq is not my first choice in life, if fate plots it out for me I have an obligation to return everything this country has offered me with my service and, if need be, my life.

A noble mind you have, sir.

But I would never fight for Mr Bush's shadowy agendas.
Your life is worth far more than a spoiled brat's attempts to impress his dad.
 
Toasty said:
My country calls on me to sacrifice my citizenship and security for the wellbeing of my fellow countrymen and loved ones.

Of course I would serve. Even if the original cause for the Iraqi war was unjust (IMHO), keeping it secure is becoming more and more apparently necessary.

A man is nothing if not for his word and his honor. Though going to Iraq is not my first choice in life, if fate plots it out for me I have an obligation to return everything this country has offered me with my service and, if need be, my life.

Respect M8.
 
On the surface it looks like a huge infringement on rights, but the army is even part of the liberal night-watchman state. Some states will not be able to defend themselves without conscription. Conscription and taxes (for fudning a more professional army) are both infringements on our freedom - as long as conscription is not considered an end in itself, but rather the best option for national defence, I can accept it.
 
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Vietcong said:
if i was to be drafted, and got the notice. i whold flee the nation, my question is, when bying a plain ticket, whold the air line be able to tell u have been drafted and refuse to give u a ticket? or is ther like a 1-2 day time period befor ther notifed leveing a gap for me to get away. i live in tx, so its a few hour drive to mexico, and its easy enofe to get into usa, so i t cant be that hard geting into mexico, and from thear i can leve for iceland

Iceland is a volcano, but an excellent choice in our world.
How come I always come up with Australia and New-Ziland?!

To the point, when there is war, no civilian airplane leaves the ground, but baby you can ride your car.
They'll let you into Mexico if it's a war, but not if every man is needed (which is why drafting is so needed when a small country :mischief: gets attacked)
 
I know someone that, in the Vietnam War (which he was totally against), volunteered, got to choose which portion of the army to serve, and chose Microwave Radio Maintainance, and they sent him to learn how a Microwave radio worked for 1 year.

EDIT: :D
 
I live in Israel, and passed only a small part (9 months) of my 3-year regular service, but in a case of a war, I would drive to the nearest base to get orders.
You should understand that here a war usually means that if you "lose", your nation will basically be wiped out.
I don't really think there will be mercy. perhaps a nice extermination camp for whomever I know, including my whole family.

In the army I had :
A regular 1-month basic training,
3-months course to be a army communication technician,
2 months "practicing" my new "job" - placing antenas on tanks and sending faulty devices to the lab in some infantry regiment headquarters.

That regiment just happened to start a 4-months stay at the east sector of what was once the Israeli "security belt" in Lebanon.
I was in the headquarters of that regiment on the Israeli side near the border.
I had to go into our Lebanon outposts about 10 times, but personally, except hearing some shootings from afar, and practicing a bit with weapons, I was quite safe, but too far from home at the time..
I tried to get out (via psychiater), and got my technician "certificate" useless for being near home.
Then I was taken to do guards at some places...... eventually I was worn out and only wanted to get out. So I did :p
 
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