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If "Good" is undefinable, on what can we rely while discussing its nature?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by WerBackIII, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. WerBackIII

    WerBackIII Jar of the Rotting Brain

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    I think that this is some kind of a strange question, but I find it interesting.

    I'll give a word later.

    What's your opinion, and please, don't spam if you can't say anything.
     
  2. Dr.Mindbender

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    If good is undefinable, then the hypothetical premise is something for relativists to base their conclusion from.
     
  3. azzaman333

    azzaman333 meh

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    Good is what agrees with your ideals.
     
  4. WerBackIII

    WerBackIII Jar of the Rotting Brain

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    will you stick to the problem, please?


    We can say that "Good" is not the thing, being a beneficial or enjoyable think for a person, but more likely that good is the things, that are beneficial for the whole humanity.

    In this case, how we can call the small acts of goodness? Think on this.
     
  5. QuoVadisNation

    QuoVadisNation keeping your angel alive

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    Well, although Good might be undefinable through an objective sense, you can rely on the sense of the word through a subjective sense - either for the individual using it or the society as a whole, or for all of the world's population. Calling something "good" for that example still makes as much sense as you'd expect it to. And then you can make up whatever word to describe acts of goodness as long its adhere to the subjective understanding of its good.

    Though if what you are suggesting is that "good" is undefinable even in a subjective sense, then I would have to disagree. Does that sound about right?
     
  6. WerBackIII

    WerBackIII Jar of the Rotting Brain

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    Good might be definable trough subjective sense, but the number of definitions would be equal to the count of human beings on this planet.
     
  7. Dr.Mindbender

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    This question imply that there are many degrees of what make actions good; whether it be small, big, humongous, and etc. To define a good action that is small, how would that be a small action that is good when the action is already defined as small and good?

    Think on that.
     
  8. Phlegmak

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    Good is definable within a social context.
     
  9. Fifty

    Fifty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    "Good" is a primitive term.

    "Set" is a primitive term in mathematics, but that doesn't stop set theory from happening.

    Therefore, we don't need to be able to meaningfully define "good" in order to engage in ethical theorizing.
     
  10. Dr.Mindbender

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    If that is so, then care to explain how to engage in ethical theorizing?

    Inquiring mind want to know.:)
     
  11. Fifty

    Fifty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    The manner in which we judge normative theories such as Kantianism, utilitarianism, relativism, etc. is by consistency, determinacy, intuitive appeal, internal support, explanatory power, and external support.

    Or, if you want to take the method of most uninformed anti-realists, just think to yourself "I can't see morality with a microscope/telescope/kaleidoscope, therefore moral anti-realism is true!" :lol:
     
  12. Dr.Mindbender

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    Wow! Look at the many concepts here all condense in a few lines! Man, you sure don't give the uniformed people and their uniformed stances (i wonder who and what they are?) a break!:lol:
     
  13. Fifty

    Fifty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Sorry cartfart, I don't make long posts for DL's ;)
     
  14. Perfection

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    Good is what Fifty's posts are. Real good, in fact.
     
  15. Dr.Mindbender

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    I am guessing you are the black sheep of the flock;)
     
  16. Perfection

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    No, I don't have three bags full of wool. :(
     
  17. Ayatollah So

    Ayatollah So the spoof'll set you free

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    If ostensive definitions count as definitions (and I think they should), then "good" can be defined - and that's how we learned the meaning of the word in the first place.
     
  18. Phlegmak

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    Are you serious!?
     
  19. WerBackIII

    WerBackIII Jar of the Rotting Brain

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    excuse me...

    If "Good" is undefinable, on what can we rely while discussing its nature?

    Aren't we going bit OT?
     

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