...then let me recommend the settings to my current game. Monarch Random Personalities No space victory No culture victory Standard map size Normal game speed I suppose I should mention that I'm more of a builder than a warmonger. Which is not to say I don't invade, I usually do, but if I'm not provoked I might wait until rifling. Anyway, I have found that playing with random personalties can be very challenging. My neighbor is Wang Kong and he has been on my back since I just built long bowmen. Somehow he's been teching well too. I've never had a standard AI personality be such a constant pain in the ass. Every time I think I'm about to get a breakthrough tech, he gets something to counter it. Also, he played the diplomacy game very well, I've been the only one he's ever really messed with, so the others like him. Without the space and culture victories there has not been a lot of vassaling going on either. It's a tight race all around (6 civs left) and it's the 1940's. Everyone is running espionage super high. I haven't played a game this challenging in ages ince I cracked monarch about five months ago. Also it's challenging because I'm Spain and, well, especially on normal speed, they blow. Izzy's traits are OK, but what a short lived, non impressive UB. The UU isn't so hot either. I digress. The point is I tried Emperor probably 15 times and wasn't making much progress but going to space or winning culture on Monarch was too easy. With these game settings though, Civ has come back to life as a satisfyingly challenging game. I don't think I'll win it, but I might. It's good, close, hot civ action at it's best. I'll try to upload the save.