OK, Here's my story. I am quite an old Civ fan. I played Civilization II, Test of Time, Call to Power, and SMAC. I took a vacation from gaming for almost 6 years. One day wandering in a mall I saw Civ4. I was struck by the fact that it is 4 already. Out of nostalgia I bought it. I played for a couple of days then was caught in real life stuff again. Several months later I discovered these forums and reading around the strategy threads got me more interested. I remember that then was the first time I patched my vanilla civ 4. Later I bought Warlords almost 6 months after it was released, but BTS I got it mailed to me from Europe the day it was released there and before it was available here in Egypt! Anyway, few days ago visiting a friend of mine who is a seasoned gamer we were talking about the civ series and it was his convection that no matter what short comings of civ 4 it is by all means the best in the series and an improvement over civ3 in particular. As I never played civ3 I wasn't able to assist his judgment. I still brought about the argument that many still play civ3 though they do have civ4. To give me a chance for trying civ3 first hand my friend was generous enough to lend me his copy of Civ3+Conquests. So, for the last few days I have been playing Civ3. It might seem weired but I do enjoy it!! I actually went on and started downloading some mods to further enjoy the game. I am posting this first to hear from others who still play Civ3 while having ,and playing Civ4. Second, I'd like to get some advice about the coming back to Civ3 as I don't feel I am successful enough in my games and I suspect that being used to the model of Civ4 might be the reason.