I'm not saving anyone's life anymore.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

But in all seriousness, there are limits to what "good samaritans" should do, and the guy should have waited instead of trying to be an action hero. He left her paraplegic for FSM's sake - I think I'd prefer death in that situation.

If your appendix burst and you got stuck in traffic, would you consider a taxi driver a good samaritan for attempting the operation himself? What about pushing someone out of the way of a car, but into the path of an oncoming train?
 
It sort of is common sense that you don't touch or move someone who's been in an accident.
 
For gods sake, the car was about to burst into flames, he did the right thing by taking her out. Enless she preferred death over paralysis.
Many years ago, a person who was drowning sued his rescuer because the rescuer didn't know CPR.

Oh yes, i remember that, what happened? Did he get sued or not?
 
This type of thing shouldn't be encouraged anyway. People will just start leaving people at the scene of accidents because no one wants to get involved with that and risk getting sued.
 
@The Last One: Read the article... That's only one side of the story!

Torti said she put one arm under the victim's legs and one behind her back, carrying her out of the car. But Van Horn testified that her friend grabbed her by the arm and pulled her from the car "like a rag doll," allegedly causing injury to a vertebrae and a lacerated liver.

"[Van Horn] got her seat belt off and was stunned," said Hutchinson. "She couldn't open the door and without being asked Ms. Torti grabbed and pulled her out of the car. It was her belief that the car was about to explode."

Hutchinson argues that despite her belief that there had been an explosion, Torti pulled the victim at an angle and dumped her on a hard median next to the car, allegedly injuring Van Horn's spine.

"We all know that anyone suspected of a spinal injury should not be moved," he said. "She was not bleeding and was conscious. If the car had been on fire, why didn't she carry her 50 yards away?"
 
No good deed apparently goes unpunished.
The paraplegic . .. .. .. .. . better pray she won't end up in another accident, because I doubt anyone would bother with her any more.

So her co-worker was not a trained paramedic? So she panicked and was not thinking clearly? She still tried to save her life - and she had every reason to suspect it might be in danger.

EDIT: Also, if Van Horn could not open the door on her side, Torti obviously had to pull her out over another seat. Doubt that even a pretty strong man could move someone out of the car like this without dragging her. So she either had to move her best she could and risk injury, or leave her and risk death. Rotten luck it ended the way it did, but I do not think she actually made a wrong decision after all.
 
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

What does that have to do with this scenario? Or are you suggesting that someone is somehow a bad person by trying to help another human being in distress or danger?

But in all seriousness, there are limits to what "good samaritans" should do, and the guy should have waited instead of trying to be an action hero. He left her paraplegic for FSM's sake - I think I'd prefer death in that situation.

It's not a hard situation to imagine. You're in a car accident; unless you're an inhumane, selfish prick, you check to see if everyone else is okay, you don't just book it, every man for himself, especially if the other person is unconscious. He said he thought the car might explode; is he supposed to just sit there on the side of the road with the other person in the car, waiting for the ambulance to arrive? What if it blows up before they get there? Get this: people help people, especially in moments of distress. People who don't understand that are sociopaths.

As for the second part, I don't believe it for a moment. And if you don't like it, then shoot yourself after the surgery, but you cannot blame one human being for trying to save another.

If your appendix burst and you got stuck in traffic, would you consider a taxi driver a good samaritan for attempting the operation himself?

If your appendix bursts, you're pretty much dead anyway; the few minutes you're waiting in traffic aren't going to change get you there that fast.

What about pushing someone out of the way of a car, but into the path of an oncoming train?

It's the thought that counts; I'd rather someone try to help me than just stand there and do nothing.
 
If your appendix bursts, you're pretty much dead anyway; the few minutes you're waiting in traffic aren't going to change get you there that fast.
Umm, I am pretty sure that you can last a good week with ruptured appendix. Painful one, for sure, and you may be beyond help after the week is over, but should your appendix burst, death is a matter of days rather than minutes.
 
Umm, I am pretty sure that you can last a good week with ruptured appendix. Painful one, for sure, and you may be beyond help after the week is over, but should your appendix burst, death is a matter of days rather than minutes.

I didn't know that, but conveniently it still makes my point, though I'm also aware of its moot nature.
 
It sort of is common sense that you don't touch or move someone who's been in an accident.
Unless there's fear of an immediate vehicle fire.

The information given in the story is not enough to make a decision about, and that will thankfully be left to the court system. That's what it's there for, and considering the nature of the incident, I think it's appropriate to use that system.
What if it blows up before they get there? Get this: people help people, especially in moments of distress. People who don't understand that are sociopaths.
What ifs in life will kill you more quickly than what ares.

The fact of that matter is that, legally, you are required to be careful as a good Samaritan. The woman was conscious and yet was not asked if she wanted to be moved, that is not acceptable behavior. If she could respond to verbal questions, it should have 100% been her call as to whether she should be moved. That was gross negligence on the part of the GS, and on that count alone I would lean towards the GS being liable.

The fact that spinal damage was to be assumed trumps the (apparently minimal) risk of fire in such a situation. Again, I don't know the specifics and the risk of fire may have been more severe, but I also doubt the ability of some random person to assess that risk.
If your appendix bursts, you're pretty much dead anyway; the few minutes you're waiting in traffic aren't going to change get you there that fast.
I'm near-positive that's false.

If I was in a major accident and was in a position where spinal injury was expected and could talk and the only way to get me out of the car was a very rough method, I would not want to be moved. I would also probably sue someone if they moved me and I became chair-bound.

Sorry if this does not mesh with your "good intentions" vibe, but trying to "act nice" isn't an appropriate substitute for proper judgment in an emergency.
 
It looks like, from the story, that she was drinking and driving as well. So she causes the wreck (I'm going to assume this unless proven otherwise...drunks behind the wheel do not deserve the benefit of the doubt) that puts herself in this predicament and now sues a friend who tried to help her out. Lovely.
 
There are quite a few cases like this (without the suing part though). People tend to have the film induced notion that cars may explode, causing them to act irrational and risk injury to the other victims by pulling them out. This is usually due to them smelling petrol or seeing steam/smoke rising.

This might not matter... but I'd like know if this woman knew she should not have been moved out of the car prior to proffessional advice being given to her. If not, then she'd be able to perhaps see how she may have done the same thing in panic.

From the sued person's view knowing that you caused someone to become paraplegic for life must be pretty rough... getting sued on top is even worse.
 
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