I'm so sorry: Australia is having an election and it's going to be very dumb


Originally a term for Vietnamese whom fled after the communist invasion, at least the vast majority were Christian which helped integrate them quickly into western countries
Problems started after 9-11 since the new wave of boat people were muslims and the Liberals realized they could use it as a wedge issue
 
Without having read the thread and large chunks of the OP, I have a few questions:
  1. Have your politicians stopped trying to get each other disqualified from political office for being secretly Kiwis?
  2. What happened to Eggboy? Is he running? What are his chances?
1. There's a new process to pre-screen for section 44 constitutional issues (which also include being a bankrupt or profiting from an office of the crown as well as dual citizenship) but it's basically a checklist and is voluntary. A lot of minor parties who won't get elected probably have issues with their candidates. The two major parties are being hyper-vigilant and have removed over half a dozen candidates for citizenship or employment reasons, in some cases due to a surplus of caution, mostly from seats where they had no chance of winning. Some cases are where they tried to renounce citizenships but just didn't get confirmation back from the other country in time.

2. Fraser Anning was only accidentally elected as a down-ballot candidate for Pauline Hanson's party. He's formed his own party, it's presumably full of nazis and criminals, the main use of which will be telling the police and intelligence services who they need to watch as far as white supremacist violence goes. For instance their lead candidate here is on a suspended sentence for trying to strangle an animal welfare worker after he stole his neglected dog back off the RSPCA.

@Mise

2. They had David Leyonhjelm who's basically a Senator by accident.
Here:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/how-mistaken-identity-and-luck-won-on-the-day-20131004-2uzse.html
High entertainment value. The guy has - among other things - mopped the floor with lying "feminists" for 5 years.

Anyway, the article has a number of other weird electoral happenings.
It's almost as if STV and AV and RV and all that nonsense were dysfunctional bollocks and one should better go for PR or DMP* or MMP.

*Only if one likes math / likes headaches / is Canadian / doesn't mean it anyway / all of the above.

1. That lady i mentioned, Senator Larissa Waters, who breastfed in the Senate while motioning and whatnot (who also probably is generally cute enough that Joe Biden would pinch her :mischief: ), actually resigned 44ing over an accidental Canadian citizenship and had to be re-shoehorned into the Senate.
Which happened rather promptly, for all these reasons.
You really deserve the apology in the title if the OP has gotten you to call yourself British.
But, Takh, the British are very nice people. :)
( *deadpan* )
 
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An essay in the Monthly about the normalisation of racist far right ideology by a certain media organisation in Australia

If you knew nothing about Australia, you might think that this process of reflection, accountability and protest would begin here as well, since it is this society that produced and exported the killer, incubated his prejudices, and then subjected its national neighbours to them. But that naive hope would fundamentally misunderstand where we are and what we are doing. There was no unity in grief – the trans-Tasman contrast became more pronounced than ever. Where New Zealand chose maturity, Australia chose malign idiocy. Everything was permissible, as long as it was irrelevant.

Before the bodies had cooled, the “national discussion” had explored the optics of censure motions, the question of whether or not egging someone was political violence, the ethics of undercover journalism, the hurt feelings of journalists, the hurt feelings of Pauline Hanson, whether or not David Koch should be fired for hurting her feelings (thousands on social media thought so), and the regulation of unrelated media platforms like Twitter. Wasn’t it really about social media? Weren’t the Greens really as extreme as – wait, more extreme than – One Nation? The Murdoch media said so with an almost unified voice. The Greens politician Mehreen Faruqi was really the same as the neo-Nazi senator Fraser Anning, said the minister for home affairs. Both-siderism, long an incurable disease, became a terminal one.

Australian conservatives seemed most concerned that someone might take their racism away. In The Sydney Morning Herald, the former Howard government minister Amanda Vanstone wrote a piece headlined “It’s not wrong to worry about immigration in the wake of terror”, as though there was some danger that a multimillion-dollar, multi-channel, multi-title media apparatus dedicated to this worry might be switched off overnight. The prime minister’s office threatened to sue our most prominent Muslim broadcaster. Pauline Hanson was invited onto ABC radio’s flagship Breakfast program to discuss One Nation’s preferences and Australian immigration rates.

Andrew Bolt drew an equivalence between Christchurch and “left-wing terrorism”, by which he meant the time someone threw glitter at him. Chris Kenny drew an equivalence between the fostering of bigotry and someone on the ABC joking about conservatives being murdered: it turned out he had mistaken a discussion about a murder mystery featuring art conservators for a Maoist insurgency. In two sad little articles in The Australian, Judith Sloan and someone called “The Mocker” decided to criticise Jacinda Ardern, as though offended by her dignity.

As one, they repudiated the idea that either the mainstream Australian media, the most openly and pervasively Islamophobic in the English-speaking world, or the country’s wider culture of unfettered racism had anything to do with this Islamophobic Australian murderer. He was instead inspired by the “ancient racisms of Europe and the fanaticism of medieval Christians”, according to a hastily written 300-word article by The Australian’s defence and national security editor, Paul Maley. “With Australia’s political class poised for a national bout of cultural self-loathing … it is worth noting there is zero evidence the man paid any attention to anything said or done in this country since 2014.” In fact, it was quickly revealed, the killer had posted many times on Australian far-right Facebook groups as late as 2016, and made a cash donation to an Australian anti-Muslim group, but this cheap attempt at exoneration was never amended or corrected. If there was no culpability, then why lie about it?
 
I could almost just keep doing post on the various freak show right wing candidates as they get discovered, here's a couple more:

A Fraser Anning (neonazi) candidate says any valid vote is a vote to support pedophilia.

One Nation candidate seems to be into naughty centaur stuff

Clive Palmer candidate made a board game called "Pin the willy on Officer Billy"

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It is really incredible that one would post an image of a female centaur on his page...
I am speechless.
Don't these people know that all centaurs were male? ^_^
 
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It is really incredible that one would post an image of a female centaur on his page...
I am speechless.
Don't these people know that all centaurs were male? ^_^

I'm not sure his lack of knowledge of Greek mythology is what will strike most people as odd about his having posted that :mischief:
 
The Liberals have lost two candidates in Victoria today, due to bigoted comments.

Jeremy Hearn, the Liberal candidate in Isaacs (a Labor seat by 3%) was disendorsed by the party over some pretty extreme anti-Muslim hate speech. Peter Killin, candidate in unwinnable Wills, resigned hours later from the Libs, for comments made about a gay MP from his own party and preventing gay MPs from being elected. Among other things he referred to the libertarian MP Tim Wilson as "that notorious homosexual".

Neither of these are likely to have been winnable seats for the Libs, and AFAIK, they'll stay on the ballot because that deadline has passed. In the case of the disendorsement, the Libs will stop campaigning there, pack up their support resources, and redirect them elsewhere. In the case of resignation I assume the same thing happens.

Both of these candidates are products of a recent attempt by Christian conservatives to take over the Victorian branch of the party. Victoria is the most progressive State in the country and this takeover attempt has badly hampered them there, resulting in a terrible State election a few months ago. That fallout, along with the impact of the replacement of Turnbull by Morrison as PM, has led to multiple resignations by sitting members, one of whom is now standing as independent against their former party and might do some damage.

No word yet on the status of the guy in NSW the safe Labor seat of Paterson who said women can't get equal pay because they lack business skills but I suspect he'll be okay.

Edit: and apparently Labor have disendorsed their second Senate candidate in the NT (also unwinnable) over sharing the David Icke lizard conspiracy theory. Jeez.
 
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Also here's a 538 style poll aggregator and seat modeller - https://www.pollbludger.net/bludgertrack2019/

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The Prime Minister Scott Morrison just called the Australian federal election for May 18, roughly as late as possible, and something we've known is coming for months. It's a Westminster system with no fixed term legislation so that's the PM's prerogative. Early voting starts April 29
No problem, as long as you know that nobody in the rest of the world is going to give a horsehocky.
 
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Not sure about probability. Any sort of swing is likely to change the government because the government doesn't have a majority currently.

For the Greens, the existing Green held lower house seat (Melbourne, unsurprisingly covering central Melbourne) looks quite safe. I don't think there's a strong prospect of a second lower house seat, but four seats in Melbourne are vague possibilities in the sense that they're paying $5 or less for the win with the bookies. The two they'd normally be the best chance in are Labor held and probably not getable in a national swing to Labor, the two Liberal seats are speculative chances only.

Fairly uniquely in Westminster systems the Senate is democratic and co-equal with the lower house, and it's the main game for the Greens.

A really good result would be defending every one of the six Senate seats up for election, including Queensland, South Australia and New South Wales which look like difficult propositions. Victoria, Tasmania and WA should be safely returned, and the Greens have three other continuing Senators).

With or without that, the Greens ending up being the balance of power (seats that, by themselves, make a majority of 39 with Labor) would be the ideal. That could happen even with Green losses, if Labor take those seats and others.

More likely, they'll lose one to three Senate seats and share the balance of power with others, particularly two Centre Alliance Senators from SA who aren't up for election this time. Ideally Labor plus Green plus Centre Alliance will add up to 39 from July. That would be a net gain of two.

It's relatively unusual for the combined left or right to achieve the 57% of the vote (or thereabouts) to gain 4 of 6 seats in the Senate in a State. That roughly defaults the two sides to 38 each, so relatively small shifts in composition matter.

Currently the numbers are weird because all 12 senators were elected in 2016, there's more minor parties, and the Senators up for vote this time are a touch scrambled.

The right is defending 4 of 6 seats in NSW, while the left are defending 4 of 6 in Tasmania. Both of those probably wash back to 3 v 3. The left is only defending 2 in SA so someone should pick that up, but SA is weird and could elect Centre Alliance at anyone's expense. With a 3rd left seat in SA, a fourth in Tasmania or Victoria would then achieve this.
 
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Very often, after distribution of votes on a 2PP basis, the difference between Liberals and Labor is less than the total informal vote.
 
Important question: am I the only First Dog on the Moon reader out here?
 
Important question: am I the only First Dog on the Moon reader out here?

I hope so. :)

I gave up on the Graun after MI5 (or MI6, or both) "forced" Alan Rusbridger to smash up hard drives with a hammer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Rusbridger#Publication_of_Wikileaks_and_Edward_Snowden_material

After that strange farce and after Rusbridger left, many uncorroborated articles started to appear, especially about the Ukraine-Russia fiasco in Donbass. Luke Harding wrote some really weird ones claiming that there were thousands of Russian tanks on the Ukraine border. No photos, no corroboration from locals. The BBC sent one of their journos to a village where Harding said he witnessed a tremendous fight between Russian and Ukranian soldiers. The BBC reporter spoke fluent Russian and Ukrainian (unlike Harding). Nobody in the village knew what Harding was on about. They said they had heard a shot a couple of nights before but thought nothing of it. The BBC reporter found a house near where Harding said the main action occurred. There was one bullet hole through a window pane. :shifty:

The Guardian is, of course, essential reading for those who need guidance to wear "difficult" clothing and footwear: e.g. "How to Wear Open-Toe Shoes" (I kid you not!).
 
Important question: am I the only First Dog on the Moon reader out here?

I follow him on Twitter but haven't looked at his stuff much since he left Crikey
 
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