Discussion in 'Never Ending Stories' started by Immaculate, Mar 24, 2010.
so what if she returns with a host of beasts to do war upon her queen and free her people?
will there be a post with links to all the updates on it?
((She won't. She's Sjykalfar, after all))
OOC: I'd like to just point out an observation I've made, remember the first FFHNES everyone was Good, the second one we were mostly Neutral, and this time things look to be leaning Evil. What does this say about us?
we're easily bored? that all the easy ideas have been taken for good and neutral? That we're all secretly blood thirsty little savages and have just started to admit it?
option 3 is most likely i think!
Faiths and Cults of Barsaive
I very much welcome you to create an entry similar to these for the faiths and cults you design for your people. Some have started to do so; thats great. Others have written me some private e-mails detailing their faiths and thats good too (but harder for me to keep track of ultimately). To these last individuals, I encourage you to post your thoughts on your peoples faith publically when you are ready.
Church of the Runes
The single largest organized religion amongst the people of Barsaive, the Church of the Runes is a faith dedicated to the earth goddess Killmorph and can trace its history to times prior to the scourge when much of the population of Barsaive, gnomes and dwarves in particular, followed this faith. Currently, it is very popular amongst the dwarves of Throal and active though certainly not popular amongst the Uldar (exported from the dwarves of Throal over the last 20 years), the Achatin (indigenous and surviving the scourge within the Achatin kaers, though in very small numbers) and the Nozkam Legon (having survived as part of their culture during the years of the scourge).
Kilmorph is called Goddess of the Earth, but she is also known as the Goddess of the Harvest. In addition to presiding over the minerals she also presides over the season of autumn, and answers the prayers of farmers by making sure their harvests are plentiful if they have worked hard enough to deserve this bounty. At the heart of the sphere is the idea that hard work is a good thing and should be rewarded, while laziness is a serious vice that cannot be excused.
The work that exemplified Kilmorph is generally skilled labor, crafts that are slowly honed though years of practice. Her faith thus teaches that society itself should develop in a similar manner. The Church of the Runes is a very classically conservative faith and oppose change or challenge to familiar family values (such as the adultery of the Throalic King Varulus III).
As Patria, patron nation of Mammon is the feared opposition of the Thoalic dwarves, so too is Kilmoprhs main opposition is Mammon, God of Greed, and his hell is that most feared by the followers of this faith.
Kilmorph's faith does not condone slavery for forced labor except maybe in payment for debts where the servitude is temporary and can be worked off. They favor apprenticeship, which could be seen as a sort of indentured servitude. It seems that part of the training of a Priest of the Runes to spend time as an apprentice in various other trades and that they may later be expected to fill in for these skilled craftsmen in times of need.
Soldiers of Kilmorph are expected to make all their own weapons, armor, and equipment. Self sufficiency is a big deal.
A very recent faith founded by the Sjykalfar warrior and general-turned prophet Araïlumni, little is known of the Forest Path to those who do not follow the words of Araïlumni. What is known however, is that they venerate the woodlands, the creatures that live therein and believe the god of nature, Succellus though undoubtedly either dead or horribly wounded during the scourge lives on and favors this faith. (Succellus stopped answering the call for miracles or any forms of communication in the last quarter of the Scourge and hasnt been heard from since)
Araïlumni preaches that the whisper upon the breeze, the movement of migrating birds, the pattern of falling leaves are all messages from Succellus, if one could but listen. She also believes that although Succellus isnt able to communicate directly with his followers, he is still trying to do so indirectly though his influence on the woodlands. Lastly she believes that the semi-transparent vaguely humanoid figures that haunt the eastern woods are the seeds of succellus.
At present the Araïlumni and a small handful of like-minded Sjykalfar are the only ones to follow this faith though many non Riaï Sjykalfar are curious and inclinded to believe her teachings.
The principles of Amamulosh,
is based upon the believe that there are two opposing principles determining live. There is the female aspect, representing fertility, health and peace, and the male aspect representing strength, chaos and war. Both sides may have strongly different views upon the world, but they accept the other side as one essential part of the world.
Though it is ONE religion and the followers believe in both aspects of live there are always two separate temples and the priest dedicate their live to one of them.
There are the temples of Kharmulosh (Camulos) where the male priests sacrifice blood to the god of war and the temples of Amakush (Amathaon) where the female priests prey to the goddess of fertility.
While the are priests and temples, there is not really a well organized body of church. But the principles of Amamulosh are interwoven into the social life and government of the kharkush.
The highest priests are the strongest son and the most fertile daughter, leading the kharkush as commander-in-chief and domestic governor.
Typical side-occupation of the priestesses of Amakush is healing, midwifery, farming and cooking, while the for the priests of Kharmulosh it is hunting, raiding, butchery and grilling.
Tabba Ghut Cult of Aeron
The first 3 sentences
Before the 'Age of Magic' we never praised any of the gods. We never worshiped those who created us. But since then we have learned much.
What made us Strong and Feared in the Past
During the 'Age of Elements' our ancestors, led under tough hand of Fargon the Axebreaker, proved to the world, that we are the strongest troll clan ever. Our kinsmen were hired by the greatest airship builders, to fight on their ships, on land or wherever the battles commenced. Even in worst situations, our brethren continued to fight. Their will to fight and ability to IGNORE even fatal WOUNDS, PAIN, and magical effects was legendary. Some say it was tough skin of a troll or use of forbidden magic but we know that it was, and still is, the skill is called CONTROLLED RAGE that is harnessed only by the Aeron Worshipers.
During the 'Age of Shadow' our ancestors lend their hands to construct the kaers all over world. We were payed well. We knew how to build
we had strength to build
we were strong. We still have that knowledge, that might, that strength! Our clan was payed well for the work: Slaves with great knowledge, beautiful concubines, strong and healthy slaves.... we bought them all
Our ancestors had much gold, silver and many trade goods everything that one could wish for we had. We know why we, (like our ancestors), have UNBREAKABLE WILL and UNBELIEVABLE MIGHT. Skills that Aeron thought us to use properly.
Slavery in the past
Before, during and after the 'Age of Scourge' we learned to control our slaves we put our law breakers into chains of slavery. Chains were released only for slaves who earned back their dept and were worthy to be released. These released slaves become known thralls people who are not slaves but still have a dept to the Clan.
Uses and why convert foreign slaves/thralls to Clan
Many of the thralls payed their depts by teaching us. Some of them revealed us the MIGHT OF AERON and how it connects us all to clan and clan to us. Other taught us how to improve our government or personal lives. Some of them thought us to build traps. Most of the thralls never leave from our clan. They become proper clansmen and bought much honor to the clan. This is the sole proof that justifies, what our opponents call, Evil slavery.
Slavery now and Hard Labor
Slavery taught us how hard work can cure person. Even meanest criminal, laziest troll and meanest human can become valuable asset to clan, after their WILL IS CRUSHED and BODY IS WORN OUT. BLOOD AND HATRED feelings what hard labor naturally causes, are only ways to REBUILD a being. After a day of hard work
resting in shacks, studying, practicing skills and settling a family cures the criminal mind. Rest after hard work, removes the hatred, the laziness and any criminal thoughts ... Eventually, the being starts to love hard work and hate criminal or similar 'weak' behavior. This is why work has to be respected
This is why work has to be hard. Be you slave, thrall, clan member, soldier or a elder if placed in front of HARD WORK we all are equal. Curing evil person, lazy person or a thief no operation can do it, no magic can cure one without harming patient. But Work can do that and that is why WORK HAS TO BE RESPECTED.
Our lives often demand sacrifices. SACRIFICES ARE ESSENTIAL to the life. Life is Clan. Single soldier saves tens to hundreds of lives with his sacrifice. Soldiers are strong, powerful, fearless. They are not afraid to sacrifice their own lives for the good of the clan. Soldiers are taught to CONTROL RAGE, they DIRECT RAGE TOWARDS ENEMY, they will not flee but fight until they bleed death and/or win. Soldiers will ALWAYS follow orders. Soldiers do what is good for the clan. And CLAN always does what is best for its members.
Hate the weak but be merciful
Everyone of us HATES our enemy. We DESPISE WEAK, if person can not fulfill his tasks nor find tasks he can complete, he is WORTHLESS. Worthless to the clan. Worthless as living being. Only way to cure such worthless being, is to force it into a "slave" status. Slaving those who are weak, who cannot defend themselves is not a crime It's mercy. Slaving burned village villagers, means you save them from certain death and crimes they have committed against Clan (feeding enemy soldiers). You give them a chance to live, to become part of a Clan. And if they decide not to join with clan, Clan still benefits from the work they did. Aeron said that No wise troll leaves strong enemy alive, as alive enemy will attack the Clan.
Teachings teach us ....
To live personal life: IGNORE PAIN and WOUNDS, CONTROL(and direct) RAGE. To have UNBREAKABLE WILL and UNBELIEVABLE MIGHT.
To cure weaknesses: WILL OF WEAK IS CRUSHED and ITS BODY IS WORN OUT, so REBUILDING could take place. Together with BLOOD AND HATE - what HARD WORK naturally causes, criminal mind can be reshaped into proper mind - mind, what does not wish evil to others. No one is forced to become part of the Clan and hard work does not cure everyone, but most can be saved. And that is why WORK HAS TO BE RESPECTED.
To be part of a strong Clan: SACRIFICES ARE ESSENTIAL - Single soldier life saves tens to hundreds of lives. Soldiers control their INNER RAGE and release it against enemy. They will not flee but fight until they bleed death and/or win. Soldiers will ALWAYS follow orders. Soldiers do what is good for the clan. And CLAN always does what is best for its members. One shall never BETRAY the clan and all means are allowed to save the clan. One should consider his/her/its actions as actions of clan members only show the strength or weakness of entire clan.
How you should live: DESPISE THE WEAK as WEAK ARE WORTHLESS. One can show mercy, if it is good to the clan and slave weak ones who have little to no chance to survive without our help. Work can cure even worst enemy, but one should not be mindless slaver enemy of a clan is always a enemy. That means only SAVE those who cannot harm the clan as slaves, but would benefit from clan, while giving their benefits to the clan.
"To kill... to burn... to rape ... to backstab ... to destroy... to enslave and imprison... to be unhonorable" - Those are NOT the teaching of Aeron. Aeron teachings
others say they are "evil" but they are not! Teachings of Aeron teach us to CONTROL our INTERNAL FEELINGS. They teach us to DIRECT OUR EMOTIONS and use them, when we most need them. Teachings of Aeron teach us to RESPECT THE HARD WORK AND DISREPECT those, who do not respect the hard work. Teachings of Aeron teach us to be merciful and survive in this harsh world.
Teachings of Aeron say: You should always consider yourself as a diplomat of the Clan and ALWAYS ACT ONLY FOR THE GOOD OF THE CLAN. Your actions should never harm the Clan.
Final sentence: Teachings of Aeron teach to CONTROL yourself and lead the clan towards the mountains of success.
--- Quotes from Your First steps in faith - Religious book dedicated to educate youth
Utilican Cult of Aeron
A sermon on Lust
We humble beings gather here,
To bask in your Perfection.
To Pledge our one true Possession,
In your name and for your glory.
May you find us worthy of your Gifts.
Guide us along the path to Perfection, responded the mass of worshipers kneeling in front of the priest.
He looked out among the crowd with great disdain, so many meek and unworthy beings, so little faith. They would never be worthy of any Gifts let alone reach Perfection. He had devoted all of his life to the Flesh and has barely begun his journey. Perhaps starting these sheep along the path would prove him worthy of more Gifts. His body shivered at the thought of more Gifts. Either way it is his duty to spread His Perfection.
I have heard rumors of some of you have been giving yourselves completely to your own lust, he paused letting those guilty squirm under his gaze, I find it my duty as your guide along the path to warn you against this. To lose ones self to the pleasures and lust will cause you to revert to something more like a beast than a man. And only Man may reach Perfection, this is what makes us unique, no superior to the beast.
Yet as I warn you against over indulgence do not shy away from these urges. They are merely the callings of the Flesh telling you what you personally need to reach Perfection. They are no different than the pangs you feel when you have not eaten, and as you all know ignoring these pangs will cause your Flesh to wither and yet eat past what your body tells you and the Flesh will become useless. So too is it with these lust.
On this note do not discriminate against your fellow men if their lust differ from your own even if you find them vile. Merely remember he may find yours equally foul in his eyes. All men are unique so too are his callings and path to Perfection. Now go forth upon your paths and may the Emperor guide you.
May he grant us strength.
there 'ye go
The Scath Talamh
the Scath Talamh is an offshoot of the Church of Runes brought about by centuries of isolation in the dark caverns of Mount Achat. They worship the holy trinity of goddesses Esus, Kilmorph, and Nantoseulta, and they have ignored those who cry out that Esus is actually a male god. Most anyone can join the initiate level, but the upper echelons are very enclosed, with few secrets escaping the higher members and none can join without undergoing mysterious initiation rites. Their meeting places are generally in the abandoned parts of the Kaer or natural caverns nearby. Their leader, or any sort of structure within the cult, is unknown but most rumors claim either the Elder Council who formerly ruled or Sharad. Their ideals are generally similar to their parent, the Church of Runes, but the value of honesty has been all but removed.
The Achat government has as of yet taken no official position regarding this cult. This lack of response has allowed the cult to grow, and now has a third of the population officially members.
I think he referred to something easier to find like on the first page, like this one for instance.
I liked your story! For some odd reason, I enjoy written, more describing stories, more than reading "speeches" or conversations. Maybe it has something to do with English not being my first language.
Thabba Ghut Clan barter system.
Underground life in Thabba Ghut clan has resulted an interesting bartering sytem for tabba ghut clan. A voucher system of sorts.
Every day a worker earns a wage average wage for simple carrier is 5 vounchers. These vounchers are called "mynts".
The value of a single mynt is tied to value of 'display meal'. 3 display meals are enough to feed one troll for a day (imagine supper, breakfast and lunch).
Everyone compare these mint values to the display meal and then judge their work accordingly.
Pari of shoes would cost from 4-20 mints, while simple shirt would value 10-35 mints.
So, one mynt = one meal (loaf of bread, porridge, some meat and vegetables, milk/juice)
So, Thabba ghut clan currency value is tied to the cost of food, not gold. This makes currency value differ quite a much depending of year, harvest and other things...
Mynts are made out of rare metal alloy, they have emblem of Thabba Ghut Clan on one side and Picture of some weapon on other side.
Number of coins is limited and amount is controlled by The Council. For Every child, 1 200 new mynts are minted. Amount equal of 100 mynts is given to child family every time child gets a year older.
Nice to see you around. hope all is well for you and your young family.
the link is on the first page, post 20.
Still having internet trouble, sorry.
Palitnate monetary system: Although bartering is the most commonly used methods of trading goods within the Palitnate, coins do exist.
Coins are forged from various different metals (don't want to guess on the mineral composition of the mines :S). However, coins with the greatest value comes from ancient Patrian coins. Palitnate, in their quest of learning the Patrian way, also adapted their monetary system.
Unfortunately the coins were impossible to make within the Kaer, therefore Patrian coins have grown in value enormously as the year passed. Patrian coins are, therefore, rarely used.
When are orders due Immac?
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In response to this abomination created by the central nations of Barseive, I suggest we retaliate by creating our own group. Private discussion groups are pretty fun after all.
Note, this is not the creation of a transnational government or treaty a la FFHNES2. Just somewhere where we can talk about our northerly problems and possibly come to some sort of agreement about them, as well as to generally get one over on the rest of the continent.
PS. No aifons allowed.
Was that this thursday gone NW?
orders are OVERDUE.
“My people, the monument behind me has been created in the honor of those who fought the Corrupted ones. Many have died because of the Diabhal Iasc, soldiers and civilians alike have been torn down. The damage they have done to us can’t be quantified with mere numbers. They merciless assaulted us immediately after Emergence, and kept up that attack for sixty years, but you, the people of Achat, have held together in the face of this threat. Despite seemingly endless hordes we held onto hope for eventual salvation, which came in the form of the fair Aifons. You have united and become not unlike tempered steel after a forge. This monument is dedicated to you, to those who have died in the line of duty, the veterans who’ve done their duty to their families and country, and to the brave soldiers who still vigilantly standing guard against any raids that get past the Aifons. We will never forget what you have sacrificed for us all.” He nodded to the young gnome at his side who quickly pulled on a rope. “My good people, I give you Perseverance!” and a curtain fell dramatically, revealing a gleaming bronze statue of a small group of gnomes and dwarves triumphantly standing on a Diabhal Iasc corpse. Sharad bowed and left the podium
This may be a bit of a stretch, but I move to ban by gentleman's agreement those giant super governments. They made action a little too difficult.
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