So I started my first immortal game this week. I usually do marathons, but decided to start doing 750 turn games. I have no problem on King and have beaten Emperor. I get killed every time on Immortal. I've tried a hundred different strategies and fail. The first game was playing Persia and Greece won diplomatic victory by like turn 480. Problem is, as you will see in the Game I've included. I have to build units and fast and I still get killed. I changed policy tree from Tradition to Honor, to at least survive. I've managed to make it to turn 300. But I'm not going anywhere. I usually start off Scout, Warrior, Monument, Warrior, Worker, Settler, Archer, Archer I usually go Husbandry, Archer, Pottery, Writing, Callendar, Mining, Build a library quickly, Rush to Iron for swordsmen. In my latest game, I had to defend quick. Greece was the most powerful civ, I have the Mod Infoaddict, and they were like 50k I was 25 or so. The problem for me is, I'm so busy defending myself, that at the later stages of the game, I'm on Longswordsmen, and other civs are on Riflemen. I can't catch up at all. Is my strategy flawed on immortal, or have I got a real tough starting position. On King mode I could fly through science, because I didn't have to worry about invasion as much. The scary thing is, in this game America could destroy me if they wanted. So what can I do with this game?