Ok, this is my third or fourth attempt on Immortal. The game has gone fairly smoothly so far, I have decent amount of cities and have not fallen terribly behind in tech. My neighbours are Genghis, Saladin, Hammurabi, Justinian, Ramesses and Alexander. The diplo-situation is that pretty much everyone else hates Hammy, and Genghis and Alexander have been at war with Ramesses almost right from beginning. Or so i think, because for some reason I only met Ramesses around 500 ad, when Alex capitulated Ramesses. So I decide to target Hammurabi, and attack him at 790 ad. However right after I declare on Hammurabi, Saladin declares on him too and bribes Genghis in. Okay, not that big of a deal I think. Just have to be careful not to let neither of them capitulate him. But wouldn't you know it, after I've taken three cities from Hammurabi, Saladin caps him without even taking one So now I'm in a situation where pretty much everyone else is friends with each other, and two of them are warmongers with huge armies standing by. I kind of gave up after that and attacked Genghis, who pretty much wiped out my whole stack in one turn I think I'll have to give this one another try somewhere in the future. Here's the start: (should've settled that gold but I didn't see it at first and didn't bother to reload) I also added the 4000BC save and the save from right before I attack Hammurabi.