Imperium OffTopicum XIV

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The Zhèngzhōu Ultimatum​

CITING

the continuous Japanese occupation of ethnic Han territories of Tiānjīn, Shāndōng, Jiāngsū, Zhèjiāng, and Shànghǎi, reports of general atrocities in Japanese China and Vietnam, poor military conduct in Vietnam, the use of unwarranted overwhelming force in Vietnam, continuous Japanese disregard for international conduct and general diplomacy, flagrant Japanese disrespect towards our friends in the United Nations, including but not limited to the United Arab Republics, the Roman Empire, the Platonic Republic, and the Irish Republic, and unprovoked Japanese military activity against United Nations Vietnam Intervention Force, the Representatives of the People’s Republic of Sìchuān and the Tibetan Autonomous State here meeting as the Sìchuān Democratic Convention within the city of Zhèngzhōu, Hénán pledge to here pen an ultimatum to the government of the Empire of Japan, in order to fully assure the continued peace and security of our world as we know it today. In this ultimatum, under the full approval of the great Premier of the State Council of the People's Republic of Sìchuān Zhāng Rénrén of the Sìchuān Democratic League, the 23rd Sìchuān Democratic Convention in Hénán hereby demand:

1. That the ethnic Han Tiānjīn, Shāndōng, Jiāngsū, Zhèjiāng, Táiwān, Hǎinán, and Shànghǎi regions, will be reunited with the People's Republic of Sìchuān immediately upon the signing of this treaty.
2. That the ethnic Han Tiānjīn, Shāndōng, Jiāngsū, Zhèjiāng, Táiwān, Hǎinán, and Shànghǎi regions will immediately be evacuated by Japanese military and police officials, and that Japanese administration will to the best of their ability facilitate the territorial transfers.
3. That the Empire of Japan accepts the generous ultimatum provided by the United Arab Republic posthaste.
4. That an answer to this ultimatum be provided no later than December 20th, 2105.

If the Empire of Japan was to reject the generous propositions of the henceforth named Zhèngzhōu Ultimatum, the People’s Republic of Sìchuān will, with the glorious rigor of the Free Chinese Army hand in hand with our United Nations comrades, be forced to declare war upon the Empire of Japan.

Penned and signed by the Plenipotentiaries of the People’s Republic of Sìchuān and the Tibetan Autonomous State, the Representatives of the 23rd Sìchuān Democratic Convention in Hénán, 2015年10月12日


To: The United States of America
From: The People’s Republic of Sìchuān

We'd like to talk business.

Big business.

Like, big guns business.

OOC: I'd just like some conformation from RC. If this were now [excepting the Tibetan Autonomous State, who only provides soldiers by choice], Sìchuān would have a population of ~806,710,000. However, given the setting, I multiplied by a .7 factor, which might be overdoing it, or underdoing it, but again, I'm being tentative for now. That gives me a current population of 564,697,000, still not bad. Taking this figure into account, and multiplying by an arbitrary .002 factor [2 people per 1,000] to acquire a rough estimate for active personnel, here coming to 1,129,394. Can I consider this to be accurate? Or may I make any sort of changes?

(OOC: i know the designs are like 150 year old by now, but i couldn't come up with anything better.)

The Juan Carlos I is pretty cool.

 

[Ailedhoo]

the Roman Empire is horrified to learn that this has happened. we just killed 60% of the city right there. and they were just defending the city. the people's opinion of the Emperor has shifted negatively.

Unlike the platonic Republic, the Emperor simply told its citizens the truth. we erred. big time. and we must pay for that.

the Emperor has canceled all military cooperation with the Platonic Republic. they will receive no more Roman Support in liberating their territories. additionally, the Emperor condemned both the Platonic and Roman Armies for failing to do its job properly.

next time, the Emperor himself will take part in military operations.

The Platonic Republic specifically ordered its forces to target only combatants. Unfortunately we underestimated how well the terrorist misguided our populace. The massacre was of combatants, not civilians. Rome's condemning of us keeping to our letter of regarding anyone who waves around and points a gun against a Protective Caste warrior makes us wonder on how they would treat traitors; with Cornish gifts and sweat song?

We will await for the Romans to have their sense return to them.

We did our job in liberating Thessaloniki; it was not our fault the terrorist managed to get the populace into the act of occupation. We will secure the residents of Thessaloniki during our hunts for the People's Militia in Libya, for it is there which we will locate those who plotted against us.

Plato will not be denied!

As per usual, the United States of America will sell weapons, both small arms, big guns, and armored vehicles to all sides of the conflict provided that they provide ships to transport them.

The Cerberus Pack, our special elite counter crime, anti-insurgent and (in war) elite commando unit, would like to discus what necessary arms that we will require for Cerberus's counter insurgency operations.

In other areas we are interested in building up our navy. Do you have any missile ships and cruisers?

Finally; the Protective Caste is interested in conducting military research. Would you be interested in a special Military Research Pact? If signed we can especially develop in marine warfare (good for business) and perhaps consider the development of a armoured combat rover (good for advertisement). The rover especially would be useful in hit and run, as well for recon and for urban combat. We will purpose our military scientists designs when the opportunity arises.

 

[Mathalamus]

The Platonic Republic specifically ordered its forces to target only combatants. Unfortunately we underestimated how well the terrorist misguided our populace. The massacre was of combatants, not civilians. Rome's condemning of us keeping to our letter of regarding anyone who waves around and points a gun against a Protective Caste warrior makes us wonder on how they would treat traitors; with Cornish gifts and sweat song?

We will await for the Romans to have their sense return to them.

We did our job in liberating Thessaloniki; it was not our fault the terrorist managed to get the populace into the act of occupation. We will secure the residents of Thessaloniki during our hunts for the People's Militia in Libya, for it is there which we will locate those who plotted against us.

Plato will not be denied!

if one of our territories rebelled, we would have tried our best to recapture it with minimal loss of life. even if most of the population was converted into militia, we would have tried our best to bypass them, not confront them openly. or blockade/besiege the city.

hopefully, they will be forced to surrender when it was clear that it was a hopeless battle.

depending on which provinces rebelled, we would even have left them alone, and/or opened negotiations or something.

yes, we are soft, but, we hope the reputation of being fair to our own population would win us approval both within and outside the Empire.

we could have gone the usual nasty Roman route, and recapture the province without any care for civilians, but Emperor Andreas doesn't like it, for whatever reason.

 

[Thorvald of Lym]

Jerusalem is horrified by the Greek intervention in Thessaloniki, which resembles a slaughter more than a police action and has literally depopulated the city. What has Greek "justice" accomplished when its draconian actions have eliminated the very people it purported to protect?

And now Athens seeks to stage a repeat performance in Libya that will no doubt trigger open conflict and jeopardize the security of the United Arab Republic's western frontier. We urge Athens to temper its behaviour with the reason it claims to so cherish; if Greek behaviour destabilizes the region, we will not shy away from resolving the situation ourselves.

 

[Ailedhoo]

if one of our territories rebelled, we would have tried our best to recapture it with minimal loss of life. even if most of the population was converted into militia, we would have tried our best to bypass them, not confront them openly. or blockade/besiege the city.

hopefully, they will be forced to surrender when it was clear that it was a hopeless battle.

depending on which provinces rebelled, we would even have left them alone, and/or opened negotiations or something.

yes, we are soft, but, we hope the reputation of being fair to our own population would win us approval both within and outside the Empire.

we could have gone the usual nasty Roman route, and recapture the province without any care for civilians, but Emperor Andreas doesn't like it, for whatever reason.

So how do you delude yourselves into thinking yourself "Roman" if you lack the hardness needed to maintain order? How does one make a empire without harness? Soft power is vital but so is the tools of war and to fail to retake province fallen to chaos will only encourage chaos. If you allow one city to go out your fingers more will follow, perhaps even Constantinople itself with your head carried by your people as a ultimate sign of your failure to discipline them.

In the Platonic Republic we must discipline all citizens as a aim, for each citizen must be set to their caste as their souls, be it suited to labour, warfare or the burden of governing, be destined to. Failure would see cowards leading battle and the interloper leading the nation. All must know their place to allow discipline to flourish.

Thessaloniki needed to be set as part of the Platonic Republic so that the city's populace may know their place. It is not the place of the general populace to take up arms, as shown by the failure of the insurgent defence in contrast to the brave warriors of the Protective Caste. To let a province rebel and leave them alone would not be doing the Protective Caste service.

We should at this time remind Rome that we shared with you our battle plans; if you thought Operation Eunomia was too excessive you should have alerted us, instead of painting yourself guiltless of what was necessary. The rebellion had to be exterminated. Thessaloniki's populace will eventually be refounded and, hopefully, re-educated into the system while we hunt for the People's Militia. We are in fact considering a building project to renew Thessaloniki so that it can become a beacon of justice as oppose to a city that was most tragically occupied by terrorists!

However we remind Rome that it may repent and that it will hopefully remember its senses, reactivating our military considerations, especially regarding war research. Though we may be neutral in the Japanese conflict we will open our military research to you as you open yours to us.

Returning back to Thessaloniki though: those who oppose the value of justice, the most important virtue in the eyes of Plato, must pay their due!

All hail Plato!

Jerusalem is horrified by the Greek intervention in Thessaloniki, which resembles a slaughter more than a police action and has literally depopulated the city. What has Greek "justice" accomplished when its draconian actions have eliminated the very people it purported to protect?

And now Athens seeks to stage a repeat performance in Libya that will no doubt trigger open conflict and jeopardize the security of the United Arab Republic's western frontier. We urge Athens to temper its behaviour with the reason it claims to so cherish; if Greek behaviour destabilizes the region, we will not shy away from resolving the situation ourselves.

The unarmed populace, as mislead it seems as the poor souls who took guns against us thanks to the dictation of terrorists, did set off to Libya. We advise the UAR to focus on Japan instead of interfering with Platonic domestic policy. Vietnam was a foreign, as oppose to domestic, target. Thessaloniki was a domestic target, as be the Libyan provinces we control which we will conduct a search and destroy operation against the vile "People's" Militia. We will not harm those who not take arms against us, especially co-operators. We will however punish traitors and other terrorists who dare stand against the just word of Plato!

We are however keen on improved relations with Arabia and remind the Arabs that we are, in many ways, a good security in case Japan manages to bypass the Med. We will offer our military research in return for Arabian military research so that we may both protect ourselves better. We are simply protecting ourselves in Thessaloniki and Libya. It is best the Arabians make not threats from this, for our domain is of justice and we have the right to govern it to the proper system of justice.

We are not the destabilising force; the People's Militia is! If the Arabians want to protect stability then they must not shelter the People's Militia, nor hinder our operations to protect ourselves from rebellion and other forms of terrorism!

What was done had to be done for the good of the populace!

 

[Mathalamus]

So how do you delude yourselves into thinking yourself "Roman" if you lack the hardness needed to maintain order? How does one make a empire without harness? Soft power is vital but so is the tools of war and to fail to retake province fallen to chaos will only encourage chaos. If you allow one city to go out your fingers more will follow, perhaps even Constantinople itself with your head carried by your people as a ultimate sign of your failure to discipline them.

look, there's an extreme limit on which provinces ill let go away without a fight. the Crimea and Sevastopol, or Rhodes, fine, but none of the Anatolian or Bulgarian territories.

its impossible for Constantinople to declare independence. its the capital. i have never heard of a capital declaring independence from its own country.

and besides, if provinces are falling away from Rome in droves, we kinda must havedone something truly, truly horrible, and deserve it.

Thessaloniki needed to be set as part of the Platonic Republic so that the city's populace may know their place. It is not the place of the general populace to take up arms, as shown by the failure of the insurgent defence in contrast to the brave warriors of the Protective Caste. To let a province rebel and leave them alone would not be doing the Protective Caste service.

apparently, they really, really disliked the platonic Republic. they apparently wanted to die rather than live.

We should at this time remind Rome that we shared with you our battle plans; if you thought Operation Eunomia was too excessive you should have alerted us, instead of painting yourself guiltless of what was necessary. The rebellion had to be exterminated. Thessaloniki's populace will eventually be refounded and, hopefully, re-educated into the system while we hunt for the People's Militia. We are in fact considering a building project to renew Thessaloniki so that it can become a beacon of justice as oppose to a city that was most tragically occupied by terrorists!

yeah well, we expected some sort of resistance, a few hundred at best, not 80% of the city. they truly, truly hated us. how do you even know they were terrorists at all!?

this incident will be a black mark, a big one, to Roman Foreign policy. and Roman Intelligence. and Military. we failed. big time.

its useless to apologize to Thessaloniki. because there's nothing left of it.

 

[Ailedhoo]

look, there's an extreme limit on which provinces ill let go away without a fight. the Crimea and Sevastopol, or Rhodes, fine, but none of the Anatolian or Bulgarian territories.

its impossible for Constantinople to declare independence. its the capital. i have never heard of a capital declaring independence from its own country.

We were noting the extent of how you would failure to keep in check the populace. It is necessary to maintain order.

Anyway it is not impossible for the populace a capital to revolt.

and besides, if provinces are falling away from Rome in droves, we kinda must havedone something truly, truly horrible, and deserve it.

...or have been soft or allowed the populace to be misguided.

apparently, they really, really disliked the platonic Republic. they apparently wanted to die rather than live.

So your saying it is just for terrorists to spread godless lies about us and have the populace be set to their deaths against the brave Protective Caste? The Protective Caste were only ensuring victory.

yeah well, we expected some sort of resistance, a few hundred at best, not 80% of the city. they truly, truly hated us. how do you even know they were terrorists at all!?

We had our considerations but it came appealent that the People's Militia were overseeing the insurgency.

Operation Eunomia

Platonic forces entered Thessalonia in late June. The Thessalonian resistance was totally comprised of the "People's Militias" and of the population of 8,000 adults over 6,500 of them took up arms in this conflict. The Republics condoning of the use of full military action against these people caused the deaths of around 5,000 militiamen. The majority of the remaining citizens and children have fled to Libya to join up with separatist groups there. Overall the military operation was classed as a resounding success however Thessaloniki remains now a ghost town, no one even remaining to tell the story.

People's Militia of Libya

In Libya there is growing dissent over the conditions in the caste system and this has led to the rise a group of separatists lead by Abu al-Fadl Abdulrashid an Islamic-Socialist leader who has aims of open rebellion against the Platonic Republic when the time is right, he has the devotion of many members of the productive caste in Libya and now has the influx of the Thessalonians too. His group call themselves the People's Militia and though they have not done anything too illegal yet it is only a matter of time before they are in open rebellion against the Republic.

As seen the delusion was a conspiracy by a terror group based in Libya. This group now threatens to arrange a open rebellion against the Platonic Republic. We must now commence the defensive.

this incident will be a black mark, a big one, to Roman Foreign policy. and Roman Intelligence. and Military. we failed. big time.

It was not our faults that we face a cunning opposition, for the People's Militia that intelligence without justice ought to be called cunning as oppose to wisdom.

its useless to apologize to Thessaloniki. because there's nothing left of it.

There is still a city, if a bit "sparsely populated." We of the Platonics will be planning to resettle the city via a programme that will enshrine the Productive Caste, honour the valour of the Protective Caste and guide the wisdom of the Governing Caste. There is even talk of constructing a tower in tribute to Plato in where the city hall once stood.* We will honour the city and hope will not have to do conduct a needed assault like that again. In Libya our operates will be more search and destroy the terrorists themselves so that Thessaloniki, a glorious chapter in the Protective Caste's history, will be unnecessary. Though the day was harsh it was a needed victory for justice.

Justice is the means and the end, for we hail Plato in tribute to justice!

*The city hall was being used as a parliament by the resistance. As such the Platonic Protective Caste basically blew it up.

 

[Thorvald of Lym]

Greece, like the government of the United States of America at the turn of last century, believes it can solve an ailment merely by treating the symptom with no regard to the cause. Instead of questioning why its citizens are upset and responding to their needs, Athens denies its opponents legitimacy as a pretext to violently enforce its vision of the "greater good". Is it any wonder that a people stripped of all other recourse should turn to armed resistance? Sadly, Athens is so blinded by its own dogma that it cannot recognize this outcome as logical.

Athens admits that terrorism does not recognize borders; it is therefore quite disingenuous to suggest that the simmering power keg in Libya is of no concern to the Republic. We also note that the People's Militia has as-of-yet committed no offence against the state, yet Athens gives every indication that it intends to peremptorily punish this group based on hearsay and guilt by association with the Thessalonian refugees. If Greece was the good neighbour it purports to be, it would not risk setting fire to our backyard by refusing to entertain a peaceful dialogue.

The United Arab Republic makes no claim to support the People's Militia. We merely suggest that Athens recognize that its supposed domestic dispute carries consequences for more countries than itself, and that its response takes this fact into account before it makes a misstep akin to Vietnam.

 

[Ailedhoo]

Greece, like the government of the United States of America at the turn of last century, believes it can solve an ailment merely by treating the symptom with no regard to the cause. Instead of questioning why its citizens are upset and responding to their needs, Athens denies its opponents legitimacy as a pretext to violently enforce its vision of the "greater good". Is it any wonder that a people stripped of all other recourse should turn to armed resistance? Sadly, Athens is so blinded by its own dogma that it cannot recognize this outcome as logical.

Athens admits that terrorism does not recognize borders; it is therefore quite disingenuous to suggest that the simmering power keg in Libya is of no concern to the Republic. We also note that the People's Militia has as-of-yet committed no offence against the state, yet Athens gives every indication that it intends to peremptorily punish this group based on hearsay and guilt by association with the Thessalonian refugees. If Greece was the good neighbour it purports to be, it would not risk setting fire to our backyard by refusing to entertain a peaceful dialogue.

The United Arab Republic makes no claim to support the People's Militia. We merely suggest that Athens recognize that its supposed domestic dispute carries consequences for more countries than itself, and that its response takes this fact into account before it makes a misstep akin to Vietnam.

Vietnam was a matter caused by the inferior will of Japan's government, who did not follow justice and was not leaded hence by wisdom. Our actions in Libya are to counter any threat to the Platonic Republic. Order must be restored and, unlike the bad democracy that was America, we will not be misguided by populace sediment and by ignorance. The wisdom of the Governing Caste dictates that Cerberus will commence its operations in Libya to hunt for any terror cell; should the cowards show themselves we will greet them with their due.

Our cause is just and our commitment unquestionable.

OOC: I have doomed the Platonic Republic. ALL HAIL THE PEOPLE'S MALITIA!

By the way; I am wondering whether to play as the rebels or not. The People's Militia has the potential to be the new S.U.D.S... or a glorious part of the UAR, the third player as it were.

For the time being though I will presume operations on the Platonics.

 

[Mathalamus]

We were noting the extent of how you would failure to keep in check the populace. It is necessary to maintain order.

Anyway it is not impossible for the populace a capital to revolt.

hm. so it is possible. but im pretty sure we would act faster than the french did. the capital was at Versailles, not Paris itself. that probably has something to do with it.

...or have been soft or allowed the populace to be misguided.

No. the people have their right to freedom of speech, to choose their own fate, to do basically anything, short of obvious things like crime. right now, a lot of these people dislike the Platonic Republic.

We had our considerations but it came appealent that the People's Militia were overseeing the insurgency.

As seen the delusion was a conspiracy by a terror group based in Libya. This group now threatens to arrange a open rebellion against the Platonic Republic. We must now commence the defensive.

so, they did form the people's militia. that still doesn't mean they were terrorists. they were just defending their homes...

anyway, we are tired of the constant bickering, the existence of the platonic Republic, the legitimacy of Rome, Thessaloniki, and now the aftermath... always bickering. such a waste of energy. it will stop now.

 

[Ailedhoo]

No. the people have their right to freedom of speech, to choose their own fate, to do basically anything, short of obvious things like crime. right now, a lot of these people dislike the Platonic Republic.

So the Emperor is not the absolute power in Rome? Because your system and actions dictate otherwise. To do basically anything can lead to crime and disorder, while failure to discipline leads to Japan's current leadership and the chaos that exited in Rhodesia.

The peoples who dislike the Platonic Republic are the deluded, the criminal, the terrorist, fanatics, tyrants and maniacs!

OOC: the Platonics must have a mirror shortage...

so, they did form the people's militia. that still doesn't mean they were terrorists. they were just defending their homes...

The People's Militia was founded in Libya, leaded by Abu al-Fadl Abdulrashid.

anyway, we are tired of the constant bickering, the existence of the platonic Republic, the legitimacy of Rome, Thessaloniki, and now the aftermath... always bickering. such a waste of energy. it will stop now.

You tire of our existence? Then we tire of talking with our inferiors.

Grow up and realise the fault of your failure to discipline, then prove yourself worthy of being talked to again.

Good day!

 

[Mathalamus]

So the Emperor is not the absolute power in Rome? Because your system and actions dictate otherwise. To do basically anything can lead to crime and disorder, while failure to discipline leads to Japan's current leadership and the chaos that exited in Rhodesia.

you have very little faith in the Emperor. or the faith of the senate and the supreme court to step in if said Emperor goes insane.

besides, only the crazies, the paranoid and those afraid to lose power ban free speech. the Emperor isn't crazy, nor is he particularly paranoid, and he knows that his powers will last as long as he is respected by the people and abroad.

You tire of our existence? Then we tire of talking with our inferiors.

no, we just tire of this stupid bickering. and for that insult you gave us, you will get out of the White Palace now, or we will throw you out. no one is inferior. No one is ever lesser or greater than the other.

 

[Ailedhoo]

you have very little faith in the Emperor. or the faith of the senate and the supreme court to step in if said Emperor goes insane.

besides, only the crazies, the paranoid and those afraid to lose power ban free speech. the Emperor isn't crazy, nor is he particularly paranoid, and he knows that his powers will last as long as he is respected by the people and abroad.

Your constant past demonstrate yourself as crazed, especially in changing of minds.

no, we just tire of this stupid bickering. and for that insult you gave us, you will get out of the White Palace now, or we will throw you out. no one is inferior. No one is ever lesser or greater than the other.

Say a person who calls themselves a emperor...

The hard worker is greater then the laze. The brave greater than the coward. The wise greater than the stupid or those limited to cunning. The just is greater then the injustice. The Platonic Republic is of the greater.

Also: we were not in your little house but rather transmitting viva our embassies. Close them out and you will prove more your lessening.

 

[Mathalamus]

Say a person who calls themselves a emperor...

The hard worker is greater then the laze. The brave greater than the coward. The wise greater than the stupid or those limited to cunning. The just is greater then the injustice. The Platonic Republic is of the greater.

Also: we were not in your little house but rather transmitting viva our embassies. Close them out and you will prove more your lessening.

you have no idea about the theory at all, do you?

every person, despite his strength or flaws, is equal. no one is less or more of a human. the Emperor is not greater than the average citizen, he just got a job of great responsibility. sure, he doesn't handle it the best way possible, but he is still the best person for the job.

any other people would not have the wisdom, the intelligence, the strength, or the just nature, to guide the nation.

now, with the strategic failure of operation Eunomia, the Emperor will take a more... direct role in conflicts.

that's right, Emperor Andreas I Laskaris is going to Vietnam to take command of all Roman forces there, for the war against Japan. the Roman Senate, with Speaker Demetrios Stamos, will take over administration of the Empire itself.

 

[Robert Can't]

OOC: I'd just like some conformation from RC. If this were now [excepting the Tibetan Autonomous State, who only provides soldiers by choice], Sìchuān would have a population of ~806,710,000. However, given the setting, I multiplied by a .7 factor, which might be overdoing it, or underdoing it, but again, I'm being tentative for now. That gives me a current population of 564,697,000, still not bad. Taking this figure into account, and multiplying by an arbitrary .002 factor [2 people per 1,000] to acquire a rough estimate for active personnel, here coming to 1,129,394. Can I consider this to be accurate? Or may I make any sort of changes?

The World population as stated in update 2 is currently around 800 million. Half of that is concentrated in East Asia So I imagine that Sìchuān has a population in the range of 250-300 million.

Also, as to the other questions from various people about Aircraft Carriers. The only nations currently with the infrastructure to construct such warships are the USA and the United Emirates.

 

[Ailedhoo]

you have no idea about the theory at all, do you?

every person, despite his strength or flaws, is equal. no one is less or more of a human. the Emperor is not greater than the average citizen, he just got a job of great responsibility. sure, he doesn't handle it the best way possible, but he is still the best person for the job.

any other people would not have the wisdom, the intelligence, the strength, or the just nature, to guide the nation.

now, with the strategic failure of operation Eunomia, the Emperor will take a more... direct role in conflicts.

that's right, Emperor Andreas I Laskaris is going to Vietnam to take command of all Roman forces there, for the war against Japan. the Roman Senate, with Speaker Demetrios Stamos, will take over administration of the Empire itself.

You presume ignorance again when we made clear our distain for the "theory" mounts ago, while our Caste System should be a major clue of the practice we follow.

Also: nice seeing how the Emperor practices the policy of equality and is able to lecture against the Philosopher Council about equality. May your supreme hold of power and your contradictions lead your empire to "glory!"

OOC: I will not have the time now to respond. Will respond this evening.

 

[Mathalamus]

The World population as stated in update 2 is currently around 800 million. Half of that is concentrated in East Asia So I imagine that Sìchuān has a population in the range of 250-300 million.

Also, as to the other questions from various people about Aircraft Carriers. The only nations currently with the infrastructure to construct such warships are the USA and the United Emirates.

then whats your theory on the Constantinople?

 

[JohannaK]

This is so entertaining I fell asleep while reading it.

 

[WhiteRobber]

The Gangnam Republic severs it's relations and trade routes with Japan.
The UN and whoever is at was with Japan has access trough the Gangnam Republic.
The Gangnam Republic does not declare war on Japan, however.

 

[christos200]

Japan rejects the communist ultimatum and declares it's intention to defeat the Communist bandits and restore peace and order in China.