[R&F] Impossible to trade a city just conquered

[OxydoReduction]

So I was playing Korea, I was allied with Georgia and at war with America.
I conquered the American city Cincinnati, which was along the border between Georgia and America. Knowing that I couldn't keep the city because of my lack of loyalty, I wanted to trade the city with Georgia.
I checked the trade panel with Georgia but the city wasn't showing. I thought it was because Roosevelet didn't cede the city to me. So I made peace with Roosevelet and I made sur he ceded me the city.
But when trying to trade it with Georgia, the city still wasn't showing. I tried to trade it with America... and it showed! I'm puzzled.
Is that a bug? Do we have to wait for some turns after conquering a city before we can trade it with another civ?
Thanks for your answers.

(Sorry for the mistakes, English is not my native language.)

 

[Aristos]

any mods?

 

[The_Quasar]

Iirc, you need to wait so many turns so that you wholely own it... no good if it's only partly owned. Check the % ownership is 100% first, before you begin to trade.

 

[Aristos]

Iirc, you need to wait so many turns so that you wholely own it... no good if it's only partly owned. Check the % ownership is 100% first, before you begin to trade.

You mean Loyalty? As in, you need 100% Loyalty before being able to trade it? Are you sure?

 

[OxydoReduction]

I only used the "fix AI" mod for the yields so there is no link there I think.
I never owned the city 100%, my loyalty was at 50 at first and I only lost loyalty because of the pressure of the cities nearby. Maybe it was because of that.
It's weird though that I could trade it with Roosevelt. Maybe because he was the original owner of the city? Anyway they should write it somewhere that it's impossible to give a city that's not at 100 Loyalty.

 

[Chefofrats]

I don't use any mods and I also noticed I couldn't trade conquered cities straight away.

 

[liv]

If you do not own them but just occupy them you cannot trade them

 

[OxydoReduction]

I made sure to own it by making peace with America. I'm sure I wasn't just occupying the city.

 

[liv]

I can trade cities I took from another civ in the game I am playing.

 

[OxydoReduction]

Even if the city isn't at 100 Loyalty?

 

[liv]

Even if the city isn't at 100 Loyalty?

The city I just looked at was 2 away from full loyalty and I could trade it away just fine

 

[Disgustipated]

Doesn't the city have to be officially ceded before you can trade it? That's my guess.

 

[Leyrann]

Doesn't the city have to be officially ceded before you can trade it? That's my guess.

The OP said he did that. I think that might actually be the cause of the problem though; there's a lot of wacky stuff going on with how ceding works, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a (perhaps unintended) part of that.

 

[Disgustipated]

Ahhh, I didn't see that part. I can only guess he thought it was ceded when it was not. Or there is a certain amount of turns you have to wait, or wait for war weariness to be removed from the city. Or just a bug.

 

[Victoria]

? Do we have to wait for some turns after conquering a city before we can trade it with another civ?

Not tested but I have seen this myself and it makes perfect sense they put this in. Otherwise 1 turn before loosing you sell it to another player and then a few turns later it flips to neutral amd you sell it to that player again.
I just assumed this was the case now because it’s very gamey otherwise.

I’ll check out ceding properly because I have not had the chance, especially as they claim they sorted out the warmonger points with it.

 

[Architect]

Also I think another thread made the claim that you have to repair the buildings/walls before you can trade it.

 

[HorseshoeHermit]

Trading a city under siege is an awful exploit. This is fixed in Civ VI is a feature, not a bug.

 

[Leyrann]

Trading a city under siege is an awful exploit. This is fixed in Civ VI is a feature, not a bug.

He wasn't at war anymore... His only problems were loyalty problems.

 

[Victoria]

Also I think another thread made the claim that you have to repair the buildings/walls before you can trade it.

Unconvinced by this.
Civs will not trade cities so easily now, even in peace deals. It’s always been a bit exploitative.
Sell flip capture abuse just seems like what this was for.

 

[Aristos]

There was a horrible hidden bug two or three patches ago regarding the internal identifiers of cities that made ceded cities behave unpredictably... I know because I Hack-coded a temporary solution for CQUI's IDS integration. I never went back to re-checking that hidden bug, I wonder if it is still there...?