Incorrect Statement in the Texas Pledge of Allegiance

[Dabomb18359]

Everyone knows about the Pledge of Allegiance, and probably every state has one. I live in Texas, and the pledge we say says, "...blah... one and indivisible." Suprisingly, my science teacher told me that that was incorrect. Since Texas is very big and once was separate from the U. S. it's still able to break off and form up to 5 separate states if it desires. Anybody else have a state able to break apart?

 

[MrPresident]

Every state can break apart if it wishes to do so and has the approval of Congress. West Virginia broke away from Virginia in the Civil War. Maine was created out of Massachusetts in 1819 because of the statehood of the pro-slavery Missouri.

 

[The Last Conformist]

"Indivisible", in such circumstances, should, no doubt, be taken more as a statement of intent than of fact.

 

[stormbind]

Seems a double standard that regions may break away from their state, but states cannot apart from congress due to terror tactics in the form of the threat from a massive stomping army of retribution

 

[MrPresident]

Seems a double standard that regions may break away from their state, but states cannot apart from congress due to terror tactics in the form of the threat from a massive stomping army of retribution

Not really because regions that break away from states are still within the federal structure of the United States of America. A state that breaks away from the union is not.

 

[The Yankee]

Everyone knows about the Pledge of Allegiance, and probably every state has one. I live in Texas, and the pledge we say says, "...blah... one and indivisible." Suprisingly, my science teacher told me that that was incorrect. Since Texas is very big and once was separate from the U. S. it's still able to break off and form up to 5 separate states if it desires. Anybody else have a state able to break apart?

That's the Pledge of Allegiance for America not for Texas and certainly has nothing to do with creating states.

 

[yaroslav]

Texas is allowed to divide up to 5 states if Texas wants, I think. snopes.com, a very serious page, offer more information:

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/texas.asp

 

[WillJ]

Since when does each state have its own pledge?

At least I've never had to pledge allegience to the state of Alabama.

 

[The Yankee]

Would anybody pledge allegience to Alabama?

 

[Mr Black]

I've never heard of the Texas Pledge of Allegiance.

You must live in some small backwoods town.

EDIT: I'm not saying that's a bad thing..............

 

[The Yankee]

I think there's a mix up in confusing the Pledge of Allegience, which says that we pledge allegience to a nation that is indivisible, to a teacher saying that a treaty with Texas saying that the territory can be divisible up to five ways. One really has nothing to do with the other.

 

[WillJ]

Would anybody pledge allegience to Alabama?

Well, I'm sure doing so would contradict any pledge made to America.

 

[Dabomb18359]

No everyone in Texas does it I think. And as yaroslav posted, there is a site that says Texas specifically can break up because of it's size. It's so much bigger than like Rhode Island, so MrPresident your statement is wrong. Not any state can break apart. West Virginia and Maine were long ago. You think Rhode Island would be allowed to split? or any other small state? No offense to you small states, but why would the rest of the country let you break off?

 

[Sims2789]

Texas lost the right to break off from the USA when they joined the Confederates in the Civil War. They were re-admited into the union(Reconstruction Act), thereby technically making them a new state then the one before the Civil War, thus the texas Annexation contract is void(except that we obviously still own Texas).

 

[Cuivienen]

Not break off, simply split into two (or more) states. Any state, Rhode Island included, could split in two. If Providence Plantation Colony desired to return to its roots as a separate state from Rhode Island (they were seperate colonies at one point, along with Massachusetts Bay and Plymouth Colonies and East and West New Jersey Colonies), there is no specific law preventing them from doing so. Bear in mind that this is very different from the Libertarian attempts to inundate New Hampshire with Libertarians, then secede from the Union.

 

[Sims2789]

For refference purposes, here is the Pledge of Allegiance to the United States:

I Pledge Allegiance,
To the Flag,
Of the United States of America,
And to the Republic,
For which it Stands,
One Nation,
Indivisible,
With Liberty and Justice for All.

 

[Sims2789]

Not break off, simply split into two (or more) states. Any state, Rhode Island included, could split in two. If Providence Plantation Colony desired to return to its roots as a separate state from Rhode Island (they were seperate colonies at one point, along with Massachusetts Bay and Plymouth Colonies and East and West New Jersey Colonies), there is no specific law preventing them from doing so. Bear in mind that this is very different from the Libertarian attempts to inundate New Hampshire with Libertarians, then secede from the Union.

Providence Plantation Colony could break off from Rhode Island if they got Congressional approval.

 

[Dabomb18359]

But 1: they definitely wouldn'y get approval. 2: Texas is sooo big it would. 3: My science teacher, how odd, says that only Texas can since it was its own country and is so big.

 

[Bobo the Ape]

My science teacher, how odd, says that only Texas can since it was its own country and is so big.

Well Vermont isn't as big but it was it's own country too (1777-1791). I don't know why size would matter.

 

[Chairman Meow]

For refference purposes, here is the Pledge of Allegiance to the United States:

I Pledge Allegiance,
To the Flag,
Of the United States of America,
And to the Republic,
For which it Stands,
One Nation,
Indivisible,
With Liberty and Justice for All.

Under God?
(not to start a fight, but it's still in the Pledge of Allegiance...)