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India wants to ape China

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by druidravi, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. druidravi

    druidravi King

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    in banning/controlling Facebook, Google ,Yahoo and other such sites
    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/g...nable-content-166543?pfrom=home-lateststories


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    The government has sanctioned the prosecution of executives from companies like Google and Facebook for objectionable content posted online. Yesterday, the Delhi High Court warned that like China, India can shut down these sites. 21 internet companies are in legal trouble


    Internet companies say they cannot develop a method to monitor defamatory or obscene material that's been posted on their sites. "No human interference is possible, and moreover, it can't be feasible to check such incidents. Billions of people across the globe post their articles on the website." That met with an angry response from the Delhi High Court yesterday, which said, "You just have a stringent check. Otherwise, like China, we may pass orders banning all such web sites."

    The case centres on a petition filed in December by a journalist named Vinay Rai, who referred to obscene depictions online of Jesus Christ, the Prophet Mohammed, and various Hindu deities. In response, a Delhi magistrate summoned the executives of 21 companies and suggested they face trial for criminal conspiracy. The magistrate had said, "It appears from a bare perusal of the documents that the accused, in connivance with each other and other unknown persons, are selling, publicly exhibiting and have put into circulation obscene, lascivious content



    The main problem is the so called derogatory depiction of various religious holy figures .
    Secularism Indian version means all religions have equal power to influence state , not separation of state from religion.

    So if you criticize any religion/religious figure harshly you can have case registered against you for promoting enmity between religious groups , inciting riots .
     
  2. Winner

    Winner Diverse in Unity

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    All religions should be mocked freely to people's satisfaction.
     
  3. druidravi

    druidravi King

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    Couldn't agree more . Religion like any other ideology should be free to be ridiculed . No special treatment for religion or religious viewpoints.
     
  4. Mechanicalsalvation

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    Why to mock anything others take seriously? Come with your different opinons or object if someone acts against his own principles - reveal that. But mockery for its own sake is stupidity.
     
  5. Murky

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    Mockery is a sign of immaturity.
     
  6. tycoonist

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    Mockery is a sign of superiority.
     
  7. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    Several millennia of human artistic history would disagree with that assessment.
     
  8. Winner

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    Amen to that :)

    Are you serious? If some guys believed in a holy flying pig and worshipped it every morning by making loud grunting and squeeling sounds, wouldn't you mock them?

    Mockery is a way of exposing the stupidity of a belief. Once you start cutting people's tongues out just because you don't like them making fun of a ideology or a belief system, you lose any semblance of freedom in a society.

    Incapability of accepting mockery as an indispensable part of a free discourse is a sign of neurotic authoritarianism.
     
  9. GoodGame

    GoodGame Red, White, & Blue, baby!

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    It probably does work NOT well in India to that. I can see this as semi-sensible policy for India, given history and the degree of human development in parts of the country. It does seem a shame to ban free expression, as in a way this like banning firearms to citizens just because some criminals use firearms indiscriminantly.


    I'm happier with the American form of secularism in government--but that goes for me living it up in America.


    I always felt that mockery was a sign of insecurity.
     
  10. Winner

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    On the contrary - insecure people can't deal with mockery, and so they resort to violence. See the storm which always erupts when someone dares mock the Religion of Peace (TM) for a good example of what I mean.
     
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    Should somebody start compiling a list of all the Xs that are Y, or can we all keep track of this by ourselves?
     
  12. Smellincoffee

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    It's episodes like this that remind us why we need to mock religion: because religion tends to be oppressive and stupid when given respect. India's caste system is still there, despite not being officially recognized.
     
  13. mayor

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    Everything, not just religions, should be mocked freely.
    As soon as you can't mock something that something becomes dangerous
     
  14. Traitorfish

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    e.g. polar bears
     
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    Or a sign of delusions of grandeur.

    People should brush off insulting mockery as an act of childishness. I do disagree with the idea of censoring mockery in general. I am a fan of SNL. :p

    Parody has its place in entrainment. I do think there's a difference between comedy and intentionally insulting someone by mocking their beliefs. That is just a form of trolling. Of course Free Speech should allow it, but again it's still childish. If you have a reasonable argument against something you don't have be immature about it.
     
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    Especially polar bears!:scan:

    (You know what I mean:rolleyes:)
     
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    I see it simmilary. If I know better then somebody else I can try show him better by my own example but if I condescend to mockery it shows the helplesness, innability on my own part.

    And superiority is inferiority expressed in clever way;).

    Yes. I am quite serious.
    Thats realy tempting example... but mainly I would try call in some medical attention first...
    You seem to imply that belief is some sort of stupidity on its own. You know you could be mocked at for that...
    I beliefe I didnt suggest that...
     
  18. LegionSteve

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    No actually, I would probably join in, that sounds like fun :)

    But yes, in general, I completely agree with you.
     
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    Totally disagree, but, it's sad to see another democracy that doesn't respect free speech
     
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    Things that can't be mocked are dangerous doesn't imply that things that can be mocked are not dangerous. I didn't think you would make that mistake.
     

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