INES Ib: Novus Ortus
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To Bengal
From India
Once before you were a nation and you seized the path to greatness by joining with all the peoples of our great land. United India stood at the forefront of the world and the Bengali people were part of that greatness. You can be again. Let us lay down our arms and be as one nation again. You have suffered under the yoke of Tibet, and China and briefly Simhala. As part of India there will be no yoke; no second class citizenship. We will all be Indians together and rebuild the nation we once were.
Further war will only punish those you seek to protect and serve. We have no quarrel with Bengal and only seek to bring you home to Mother India. We are a rich nation and will share our riches with you. We seek prosperity and will share our prosperity with you. We seek peace and will share our peace with you. Together we will make India whole again and all our nation will share in the glory that is India and lead the world.
Take the hand that would lift you up.
From India
Once before you were a nation and you seized the path to greatness by joining with all the peoples of our great land. United India stood at the forefront of the world and the Bengali people were part of that greatness. You can be again. Let us lay down our arms and be as one nation again. You have suffered under the yoke of Tibet, and China and briefly Simhala. As part of India there will be no yoke; no second class citizenship. We will all be Indians together and rebuild the nation we once were.
Further war will only punish those you seek to protect and serve. We have no quarrel with Bengal and only seek to bring you home to Mother India. We are a rich nation and will share our riches with you. We seek prosperity and will share our prosperity with you. We seek peace and will share our peace with you. Together we will make India whole again and all our nation will share in the glory that is India and lead the world.
Take the hand that would lift you up.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
To: African Scum
From: Iberia
We knew it was only a matter of time before you warmongers decided to invade peace loving Iberia. We will throw you out now. Good day.
ooc: Imago why can't I invest two eco into my project? Thats ridiculous. It would take half the nes to finish it. And I obviously needed it this turn or sooner. I would have figured raising more Crusaders cause there lands are under occupation. Now, I am back in the same boat as Assyria only less eco and more enemies.
From: Iberia
We knew it was only a matter of time before you warmongers decided to invade peace loving Iberia. We will throw you out now. Good day.
ooc: Imago why can't I invest two eco into my project? Thats ridiculous. It would take half the nes to finish it. And I obviously needed it this turn or sooner. I would have figured raising more Crusaders cause there lands are under occupation. Now, I am back in the same boat as Assyria only less eco and more enemies.
Because if you could pay off projects as quickly as possible then the discount they give you on whatever you're trying to purchace wouldn't be fair. Stories are the only thing that can rush projects. Your project takes five turns because it does a lot. What can I say?
As for the Assyria analogy, don't forget that there, you had no allies. Here, you have six nations allied with you and in a position to help you out, and several others fighting the war on your side on distant fronts.
The Major
Warlord
From: Scotland
To: England
Now perhaps you will realise the folly with which you entered into conflict with Svearland & Scotland. You are now in a conflict from which none of you and your backstabbing allies will emerge alive. We formally declare support of the Ctha'r/Kyrian alliance.
ooc: Did it turn out that England's blockade had been put in place last turn?
To: England
Now perhaps you will realise the folly with which you entered into conflict with Svearland & Scotland. You are now in a conflict from which none of you and your backstabbing allies will emerge alive. We formally declare support of the Ctha'r/Kyrian alliance.
ooc: Did it turn out that England's blockade had been put in place last turn?
Perfectionist
Angel of Verdun
FROM: The Holy Celtic Empire
TO: The People of Scotland
We warned you that this would happen. We warned you that your king was evil. Your king openly supports the infidels. He supports those who want to destroy Trinitism. He wants to replace Trinitism with Kyrianity. We hope that you will not allow him to carry out his plans. Overthrow him, and we will try to reach a peaceful conclusion in the War of the Isles.
FROM: The Holy Celtic Empire
TO: The Apostate calling himself the King of Scotland
We wonder what the Byzantines promised you. That when we are gone you will inherit the British Isles? More the fool you. We notice that you persist in calling us back stabbers. We would remind you that the Empire has never attacked Scotland, and that Scotland broke an alliance, and a centuries old tradition of cooperation, by attacking Ireland. We suggest you look to your own behaviour before casting aspersions on others.
OOC: Shouldn't there be more repercussions from the king of Scotland's conversion to Kyrianity? After all, even now we wouldn't elect a Muslim president. In this period, I can't believe that the church and the nobles would allow an apostate king to reign. Loyalty to the church comes above loyalty to one's nation. Indeed, the idea of a nation doesn't really exist.
One more thing: stop writing HCE. It is The Holy Celtic Empire.
TO: The People of Scotland
We warned you that this would happen. We warned you that your king was evil. Your king openly supports the infidels. He supports those who want to destroy Trinitism. He wants to replace Trinitism with Kyrianity. We hope that you will not allow him to carry out his plans. Overthrow him, and we will try to reach a peaceful conclusion in the War of the Isles.
FROM: The Holy Celtic Empire
TO: The Apostate calling himself the King of Scotland
We wonder what the Byzantines promised you. That when we are gone you will inherit the British Isles? More the fool you. We notice that you persist in calling us back stabbers. We would remind you that the Empire has never attacked Scotland, and that Scotland broke an alliance, and a centuries old tradition of cooperation, by attacking Ireland. We suggest you look to your own behaviour before casting aspersions on others.
OOC: Shouldn't there be more repercussions from the king of Scotland's conversion to Kyrianity? After all, even now we wouldn't elect a Muslim president. In this period, I can't believe that the church and the nobles would allow an apostate king to reign. Loyalty to the church comes above loyalty to one's nation. Indeed, the idea of a nation doesn't really exist.
One more thing: stop writing HCE. It is The Holy Celtic Empire.
No. There was no blockade. However, I only gave the orders a short rexamination, so there remains the possibility I am still wrong.
Most of the nobility and the important people of the Church know that their king's conversion was purely a political move, which allowed Byzantium to enter the war, and so, they're doing their best to keep the commoners quiet. However, there will be further complications from the conversion next update.
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To: The Kingdom of Delhi
From: Simhala, Bengal
You have won this war, that is clear beyond doubt. However, we ask you to be a merciful victor, and ask for peace terms both our nations can accept.
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The stats, the extras, and a brief edit of the update should all be posted within 24 hours. As my RL situation has calmed down, all further updates should proceed on schedule, and as of now, the deadline for next orders is still WedNESday.
The Major
Warlord
From: Scotland
To: The Celtic Empire
True you never set foot in Scotland, but we have no doubt you knew all about the "Irish plot." We will waste no more time talking with villains.
*Scotland officialy will accept no more diplo from the "Holy" Celtic Empire*
So don't even bother writing it...
ooc: The bit about you are in a conflict from which you will not return was the part meant for you perfectionist.
My noblemen have their reasons... Also if you want to be uber-realistic you wouldn't be able to get these messages through, not only to our people but our nobles and our king, and we would not be able to send diplo like this to you. So lets just end this all. (I'll retitle that message to only England if it makes you happy...)
another ooc: A peaceful conclusion to the Battle of the Isles... surely you joke, I'm sure we all realize there can be no such thing... at least involving Scotland...
To: The Celtic Empire
True you never set foot in Scotland, but we have no doubt you knew all about the "Irish plot." We will waste no more time talking with villains.
*Scotland officialy will accept no more diplo from the "Holy" Celtic Empire*
So don't even bother writing it...
ooc: The bit about you are in a conflict from which you will not return was the part meant for you perfectionist.
My noblemen have their reasons... Also if you want to be uber-realistic you wouldn't be able to get these messages through, not only to our people but our nobles and our king, and we would not be able to send diplo like this to you. So lets just end this all. (I'll retitle that message to only England if it makes you happy...)
another ooc: A peaceful conclusion to the Battle of the Isles... surely you joke, I'm sure we all realize there can be no such thing... at least involving Scotland...
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
I will rejoin as Denmark.
Please note that I will not be taking any action AGAINST Perfectionist and will not radically change Denmark's character. I do however still think favouritism was involved in Svearland's demise, but as I gave das a second chance, I will give this a second chance as well.
Please note that I will not be taking any action AGAINST Perfectionist and will not radically change Denmark's character. I do however still think favouritism was involved in Svearland's demise, but as I gave das a second chance, I will give this a second chance as well.
The Major
Warlord
I don't think sheep can be trusted with such a nation, i believe the only alternative is for him to join as the Pro-Scotland Anti-Trintist alliance county of Morocco 
Perfectionist
Angel of Verdun
I don't think sheep can be trusted with such a nation, i believe the only alternative is for him to join as the Pro-Scotland Anti-Trintist alliance county of Morocco
You mean the nation of Ctha'rists? The people who despise all Trinitists? Remind me what religion the people of Scotland follow.
LittleBoots
The Bloody Banner
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I disagree that there would be that much of a problem with the King's conversion to Kyrianity. Reference Clovis or the Viking Kings. Especially if the people are at war with a Trinitist entity, a Kyrian entity is trying to aid them, and there is already a Kyrian minority in Scotland (I assume, as there are Kyrian minorities in most countries, notably England according to the update, due to missionary action). Even so, I'm not terribly well acquainted with the history of Trinitism and its influence in Scotland, so I dunno. Another random point is that Kyrianity is a fairly attractive religion to all castes in society, by construct.
I apologize that PMs from all parties has not yet been answered, I will get around to it shortly, do not fear!
I apologize that PMs from all parties has not yet been answered, I will get around to it shortly, do not fear!
The Major
Warlord
don't mid this post...
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
Screw it I take Persia instead. Much easier.
I have to agree with the casualty numbers. It does seem quite low.
Agreed. After the second story it should require progressively more stories to get stat bonuses.
Terrain with light defenses shouldn't cause that much trouble, IMHO. But I won't try to change the way you moderate the NES.
Good day to you. Accept that your gods are false. You will submit to the will of Amon-Ra by will or by force. It is nothing short of your ultimate destiny.
Are you truly so closed-minded that you cannot comprehend people acknowledging religions other than Orthodox Trinitism?
Oh, we don't despise you. We'd just like you much more if you shared our beliefs.
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Great update Imago!
Perfectionist
Angel of Verdun
We shall accept other religions as soon as the Ctha'rists and the Kyrians cease their holy war and leave Trinitists alone. Until that time, we shall treat you as you treat us.
Aside from the invisible rebel losses, there's also the fact that the Svearish training was greatly lower then the Celtic coalition's training.
Starting with Update 4, I will begin using that system.
Looking back over some things, the amount of territory conquered actually makes more sense then I initially thought. The Celts had ten-odd divisions in the area, and had a terrain advanage, and the Byzantines had twenty-odd divisions in the area. It wasn't as if one division single-handly stopped the conquest of Germany.
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Stats and first page extras are up; sorry for the delay. Deadline is as normal.
