INES IV: Born Yesterday (Turn Zero)

The in-game reason for Gibraltar, (besides the fact that ZeletDude claimed it as core on the first page, and he has kind of a tiny country), is that the Union of Britain, being similar in ideology to France, was probably able to wring it out of Iberia in one of the Napoleonic wars.

Now the question is, given the Kingdom of God, what is that thing that looks like the Papal States?

As for the color issue, I'll do jade, and I will accept requests unless I've already colored in too much of your country.
 
République du Kanata (Creative/Diplomatic) - ChiefDesigner
Medium Republic (55%)
ASP: 3
GenTech: G0.N0.A0.B0.E0
SpecTech: None
Army: 10 divisions
Navy: 10 squadrons
Air Force: 10 groups

Background:

Following its successful defense of Quebec, France retained her American colonial possessions. However, in the tumultuous years of the Revolution, New France broke away; thanks to shrewd alliances and skillful diplomacy. Now the largest state on the North American continent, Kanata faces challengers on all sides.

Capital: Quebec City
Core Regions:

Quebec, Ontario, the Maritimes; the Prairies. The US, west of the Appalachians and east of the Missouri.

Reach Lands:
The rest of OTL Canada. The Missouri watershed and the Oregon Territory.

History:

Following the opening of Nouvelle-France to Huguenot settlement, thousands of Calvinist Frenchmen left La Rochelle for a fresh start in their Promised Land. Under the care of a series of capable intendants, the colony found prosperity in the fur and timber trades.

Revolution was inevitable for the ancien regime, however; under the Directory, Kanatiens were embraced for the first time as Frenchmen, equal under the law and empowered to send delegates to the Council of Five Hundred.

Following Napoleon's coup, however, and the reimposition of colonial government, the Kanatien village councils refused to recognize the authority of the Bonapartist government. Unable to contest Bonapartist dominance over the French metropole, Kanata contented itself with accepting millions of Republican refugees, followed by waves of Germans fleeing the chaos of 1848.

Today, Montreal is the largest city in the Western Hemisphere; blessed with waterways, and sitting at the highest navigable point of the St. Lawrence, it is the financial center of Kanata, home to millions of immigrants and gateway to the untapped riches of the American continent.
 
Yargh, way too much overlap. Same capital as BILSIF, can't spin this one. Maybe you could switch to exported Frenchpeople in Peru, or go to central Canada as your main core, if you really must be close by. Or switch to something in Ethiopia or Iran or the Great Lakes of Africa.

Welcome to the game, though. :)
 
The in-game reason for Gibraltar, (besides the fact that ZeletDude claimed it as core on the first page, and he has kind of a tiny country), is that the Union of Britain, being similar in ideology to France, was probably able to wring it out of Iberia in one of the Napoleonic wars.

Fair enough, I'll have to get that back the old fashioned way ;)

Now the question is, given the Kingdom of God, what is that thing that looks like the Papal States?

Perhaps there could be the East-West schism in this timeline? In response to the Kingdom of God's (I'm gonna make some assumptions here) focus on Christ as a man and conqueror, and the Apostles' and disciples' concern with worldly matter, Western Christianity could have become more focused on spirituality. Maybe St. Peter even could have had a falling out with the other Apostles after they seized power and gone off to the western part of the Empire, declaring himself the vicar of Christ? Though, given the lack of a base in the eastern Med Peter's Christianity could've been weak enough to be co-opted into Roman mythology somehow. That could be interesting, to still have Roman mythology in some form, with the Pontifex Maximus having his own state in central Italy.
 
You could have Vinlanders based out of [NEWFOUNDLAND] who dominate all of the coastal areas, and Francophones who have expanded up into the inland waterways, just like the Mormons living in the upper reaches of the [AMAZON] (which has its own Malinke name in this timeline).
 
If ChiefDesigner wants Montreal, then a narrow band east, and a big chunk of the Praries, I'll do that. But anything else really would be cutting too much out of BILLSIF.
 
I think CD will accept that, although the idea of Montréal being the biggest city in the western hemisphere seems somewhat unlikely to me.
 
Yeah. I'll go for something around the Great Lakes and the Prairies.

EDIT: In a world without the Erie Canal, Montreal and the St. Lawrence become the waterway of choice between the Great Lakes, the Mississippi, and the Atlantic.
 
I like that. Aside from the corridor, you'll probably get, at least nominally, everything from OTL York Factory to Alaska. Trying to finish up the borders on North America now though, so unless someone wants Dixie or one of the two Amerindian countries germanicus made up, I think we've stuffed our last PC on the continent.
 
Yeah, but that area isn't nearly as developed as it was in OTL, especially comparing to what I would imagine are some very large cities in Tilabaiinke (South America) or whatever we are calling OTL Mesoamerica.
 
Still gets to be the largest country in North America. And because of the feud between the Amerindians and the Combined Syndicalists of America, the République du Kanata probably holds the most useful transcontinental railroad system.

Now to figure out Tilabaiinke...
 
I could draw up a map of the area I was thinking of, and then you could do with that what you wished.
 
..... I would add something to the history, but my brain is bummed lately and you guys seem to have this well in hand. All I can suggest is that maybe after the war where the Baltic Council seized the German/Polish Baltic Coast, and a war where the US secured the rest of Eastern Europe, a new Holy Roman Empire(or whatever we want to call a Polish-German union of fascists) emerged as a counterweight. It holds most of Central Europe.

Anyone have anything to add to that idea?

-L
 
I could draw up a map of the area I was thinking of, and then you could do with that what you wished.

Sure. Given how fair you try to be and how good you are with maps, I might just copy you wholesale. Just remember that Gran Colombia goes to Malinke, and the Mormons get a generous helping of the area around the Amazon.

And for my sake, try not to put in too many NPCs. ;)

Anyone have anything to add to that idea?

The HRE makes sense, provided it is very weak, decentralized, and only wishes it was a counterweight. Perhaps the US, the Baltic Council, and France all support different factions in the Empire.
 
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There we go, here we have the Continent of Tilabaiinke. We have [MALINKE GRAN COLOMBIA], the Republic of Tilabaiinke, the Republic's reach territories, an Inca or post-Inca state (possibly with some East Asian support, technology or other influences), and the Mormon nation deep in the rainforests. It is again important to note that the Republic of Tilabaiinke officially declares itself to be the sole government of all of the continent, while de jure acknowledging that it currently does not extend its authority over the entire area, and that several other governments claim authority over certain regions.
 
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Next map should be final; I believe the cities were the hard part. Maybe Iggy’ll come in with some amazing Tilabaiinke/South America I can paste in tomorrow (EDIT: seems he crossposted just that!) and save me trouble, but even without that, everything looks to be on schedule. The main NES thread should open in less than 24 hours.

Before that time, you can still make a new nation if you want to start in Japan/Siberia/Korea, Ethiopia/Great Rift Valley/Kongo, Romania/Bulgaria/Serbia, Thailand/Sumatra, or Iran, but other than that I think we’re closed up.
Of course, once the main NES starts, you can always grab an NPC if that’s more your style.

NPC Iran, in keeping with my style of minimizing the number of NPCs, would probably be a gargantuan decadent empire.

EDIT 2: South America will be slightly different--the Mormons will be bigger and reach the Atlantic. But only slightly. Thank you very much Iggy.

EDIT 3: So I don't lose my progress. How many of you will notice this is here?

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A Brief Geographic History: How Did the World Born Yesterday Reach 1900 AD?

Hundreds of years ago, Zheng He came to the New World, reaching a continent the Anglos now call North America. Imperial China was not interested in his discoveries, but mystics, adventurers, peasants, criminals—they all were. Today, the heritage of the great explorer is split between two states: federative Xingguo and royal Shengzhou, which stayed associated with the homeland for longer, but has a racially mixed population with strong Mexica roots.

Not all Amerindians were as lucky as the ones absorbed in Shengzhou. Just across mountains in the center of the continent, the states of Apache and Cheyenne are young and poor. The former is still being organized under the auspices of Anglo Texas, while the latter’s long-suffering people are enjoying a brief rest from generational warfare with the Anglos of the Combined Syndicalists of America. The CSA is a degenerative country—its founding revolutionaries had high ideals and its current ones want only to hold onto power in the wake of their Second American Civil War.

South is the land of Dixie. Its rulers are of Malinke heritage, and Dixie is an Anglo word, but after surviving a brutal war against the Syndicalists some years back, Dixie’s proud ruling landowners decided to embrace the exonym to better fit with their neighbors. But even while they play up to Texas, the landed class of Dixie still oppresses their (nominally) emancipated German agricultural workers, whose forefathers were brought over from Europe in chains when Dixie was still a Malinke colony.

Further south is the Caribbean Sun, a union of ex-colonies from different countries that has managed to wrest Florida away from Dixie. A monarchy, the devoutly anti-colonialist Caribbean Sun has long been thought ascendant, though their relatively small territories make one wonder if the Caribs deserve their reputation.

Rotating back to the north of the CSA, three nations cross the roof of North America. The easternmost, Vinland is more than twice as old as the Chinese states, but the Norsemen have lived out a relatively quiet history, experimenting with the sort of democracy that is only a dream in the CSA and trying—with moderate success—to stay out of the way of independent French Kanata, just to the west, whose people were prideful and abrasive even when they owned allegiance to Paris in the time before the Napoleonic wars.

Beyond vast Kanata’s southern rail line, one reaches the third of the northern triad, the Aleutian Empire. Born of some of Xingguo’s most ambitious, the Empire is a trading company with its own nation, which became independent during one round of Xingguo’s fractious politics. The Empire’s lands extend into Asia, but let us turn from that for now, and go south again. Far south.

Below Shengzhou, below its Central American sometimes tributary Miskito, is the continent and country of Tilabaiinke. The Tilabaiinke Republic slipped away from its African Malinke metropole much when Dixie did—around the time of the world-shaking Napoleonic wars. Tilabaiinke has since created a curious state of affairs in the vast land some Anglos stubbornly call South America. For reasons of governmental weakness—Tilabaiinke was never quite as strong as it wanted to be—the nation tolerates three other powerful governments within its official territory.

First, Tawantinsuyu, or the Land of the Sapa Inca, stretches along the parts of the Pacific coast, and, despite its low world profile, is probably the strongest pure Ameindian state that remains. Second, New Deseret lords over the Kodugu River as only a state of theocratic Anglos can. In the mid-nineteenth century, vast numbers of Mormons came from their Salt Lake in Xingguo to expand Amazon City as a riverine port in the heart of the jungle, and the population of their land has exploded, even as Tilabaiinke tries to keep tabs by forging alliances with the loosely organized tribal federations that ring the Mormons.

Third (again with that number), Tilabaiinke tolerates a Malinke presence along the north of their continent. This region, which the Anglos call Great Colombia, is the last colony in the Americas, and only exists because it is not a colony at all. Tilabaiinke shelters the Malinke colonial government from Caribbean Sun wrath by asserting that the monstrous colonialists are actually pay tribute to Zanuyeba, and the local Malinke colonial governor humors the upstart Tilabaiinke Republic with missives of submission so he can continue paying taxes to his African masters in Timbuktu.

Across the Atlantic
 
How does New Deseret have access to the Atlantic? Do we have confusing borders around the mouth of the Kodugu?
 
Yup. For [reasons of game balance, although one supposes secure ports helped them get to the Amazon/Kodugu] there'll be a break in your coastline before it picks up for a short bit around OTL Cayenne. Also, to demonstrate Tilabaiinke's theoretical control over the continent, the only national border on the continent will be over by OTL Panama, which is either elegant or confusing depending on your take.
 
Empire of Japan (Industrious/Naval) - Circuit
Absolute Monarchy (55%)
ASP: 3
GenTech: G0.N0.A0.B0.E0
SpecTech: None
Army: 10 divisions
Navy: 10 squadrons
Air Force: 10 groups
Background: The Japanese Empire industrialized early and began carving an Asian and Pacific empire for itself.

Capital: Kyoto
Core Regions: Japan, Korea, Phillippines
Reach: Taiwan, Siberia, Hawaii, Polynesia, Manchuria
 
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