Informal names for tech tree columns

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  1. Leoreth

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    With the current, very rigid tech tree we essentially have three sub "eras" for every game era made up of the columns of the tech tree. They are recognised by the game, even though their impact is very limited, for example some dynamic names depend on column instead of the current era.

    I was wondering if we could come with some informal names for those sub-eras. I propose the name "age" simply because it distinct from era and seems to work out well in practice. For example, for the first ten columns:
    - Stone Age
    - Copper Age
    - Bronze Age
    - Iron Age
    - Imperial Age
    - Late Antiquity
    - Early Middle Ages
    - High Middle Ages
    - Late Middle Ages
    - Age of Exploration

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    I like the idea!

    "Dark Ages" sounds kind of cooler than "Early Middle Ages" but risks triggering hordes of angry medievalists.

    Not sure about "Imperial Age" since Empires played a larger role in Late Antiquity and beyond, I think, but I don't know what else to call it. The word "classical" comes to mind, but is already used for the entire era.

    Similarly, "Renaissance" is actually a shorter period than the entire Renaissance Era, and could be used for its first column (or even for the last column of the Medieval Era). The Renaissance Era should really be called Early Modern Era, if we wanted to be precise. But I doubt we're going to rename eras.

    Here are some ideas for the more recent periods, not all equal in quality:

    Renaissance
    - Age of Exploration / Age of Discovery / Renaissance
    - Baroque Age (perhaps too specific to the arts) / Scientific Revolution (and this is too specific to science...)
    - Age of Enlightenment
    Industrial Era
    - Age of Revolution / First Industrial Revolution
    - Spring of Nations (too specific to 1848?)
    - Belle Époque / Gilded Age (perhaps too specific to France and the US respectively, but they capture the era well) / Second Industrial Revolution / Age of Imperialism
    Global Era
    - Machine Age / Age of Oil
    - Atomic Age (because this is when atomic weapons are invented)
    - Atomic Age (because this is when atomic weapons become widespread and nuclear power is invented, which I think fits more) / Space Age
    Digital Era
    - Information Age
    - Current Age / Contemporary Age / Big Data Age
    - Future Age
    - Transhuman Age
     
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    Classical Antiquity for the Imperial Age and hope nobody notices that it's technically a synonym for the classical era?
     
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    Yeah I am trying very hard to avoid having <something> age as a subsection for <something> era. Otherwise Classical Age would have fit very well.
     
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    The second era as a whole could be called Antiquity and the first era could be... Dawn of Civilization.
     
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    Late Antiquity could be the Age of Proselytism as it lines up with both the expansion of Buddhism outside India and the early spread of Christianity. If we don't like the Dark Ages, we could go with the Age of Monasticism which continues the religious theme and pertains to both Europe and Asia, admittedly with somewhat different meanings. High Middle Ages could be the Feudal Age, though that might be a little too specific to Europe. Maybe put an Age of Steel in somewhere? The Age in between Exploration and Enlightenment could be the Transcontinental Age, which is accurate both to Western powers colonizing the New World and the Ottomans bridging Europe, Asia, and Africa. There should definitely be an Age of Rail, maybe after the Age of Revolutions?
     
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    Age of Rail is a good choice for the middle column of the Industrial Era. Age of Steam would also work.

    EDIT: the middle column of the Classical Era can be the Axial Age, a term used to describe the development of philosophy and religion across many cultures around that time (Plato et al. in the West, Confucius and Lao Tse in China, Zoroaster in Persia, the Buddha in India, etc.).
     
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    the "Age of the Fruitbat" has to fit somewhere in there.
    (scnr - I'm in literature mode currently)
     
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    Oh, that's very good.
     
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    Early Industrial: Age of Disaster for the Human Race

    Early Digital: Age of the End of History

    Middle Digital: Age of Information

    Late Digital: Age of Dis-Information
     
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    Early Classical: Age of Featherless Bipeds
    Early Rennaisance: Age of Pommels
    Early Global: Age of Shi
    Early Ditigal: Age of Donuts
    Mid Digital: Age of Tubes
    Late Digital: Age of Covfefe
     
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    Ancient
    - Stone Age / Age of Myths / Archaic
    - Copper Age / Age of Myths / Archaic
    - Bronze Age / beginning recorded history / ancient history
    Classical
    - Iron Age
    - axial age
    - Imperial Era / Late Antiquity / Classical Antiquity
    Medieval
    - Middle Ages / dark age
    - The Enlightenment / Middle Ages / High Middle Ages
    - Age of discovery / Age of Exploration / Late Middle Ages
    Renaissance
    - maritime expansion / Age of Exploration
    - Age of Liberalism
    -Age of revolution
    Industrial
    -Industrial revolution
    - Age of rail / Guilded age
    -Belle Epóque / Age of Imperialism
    Global
    - Age of Oil
    - Atomic age
    -Spacial age
    Digital
    -Information Age
    - Postmodernity
    - Future age
    - Transhumanism
     
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    For the ancient era: what do people think of having the first column be 'Prehistory'? It's defined as 'the period before written records', and all of the first column techs have to do with social advances that we know through archaeological (rather than written) records. 'Late Neolithic' works as well, since it applies to any society before the rise of metallurgy, and smelting is a second-column tech. OTOH, 'Stone Age' fits really neatly into a pattern for the rest of the ancient era (Stone Age -> Copper Age -> Bronze Age).

    EDIT: alternately, instead of 'Copper' Age (based on the fairly obscure technical term Chalcolithic) we could borrow from Age of Empires and use 'Tool Age' for the second column. 'Proliferation of tool usage' certainly fits a column that includes the 'Masonry', 'Smelting', and 'Leverage' techs.

    Really like 'Axial Age' for the middle column of the Classical period. Not as much a fan of 'Imperial Age' for the third Classical column, since that seems too Rome-centric to apply across the globe. 'Classical Antiquity' is somewhat generic, but it works for pretty much every world culture of that time.

    For medieval techs: 'Late Antiquity' probably works best for the first column, since it's a historically meaningful term that covers the whole 400-800 CE period. 'High Medieval' fits the middle column. Ironically, from what I can tell, 'Renaissance' is actually the best name for the third column, since gunpowder & printing press & humanism all properly belong to that period.

    If we do use 'Renaissance' as a name for a 'medieval' tech column (which would be accurate, since the Renaissance properly dates to the years around 1450), then the next set of three would be 'Early Modern' instead. 'Age of Exploration' fits for the first column, though I'd suggest 'Age of Absolutism' for the second -- that period marks the rise of absolute monarchies and authoritarian governments the world over, which partly inspired the rise of classical liberalism and egalitarianism (and the whole 'Age of Revolutions') as a backlash.

    For the Industrial era, steam power preceded the widespread proliferation of railroads, which in turn preceded the Second Industrial Revolution that produced electricity, the internal combustion engine, telecommunications, and flight.

    For the Global era, I'd actually argue for 'Modern Age' as a specific term for the first column here. This is the period associated with 'modernist literature', modernist philosophy (hence the name 'post-modernism' for philosophers who disagreed), 'modern art', 'modern warfare', the rise of modern psychology, etc.

    Finally, for the Digital era, the first column matches the general pattern of the 'Computer Revolution' (Age of Computing?), while we seem to be living in the early stages of the second column as the 'Information Age'. the last column fits pretty perfectly to the definition of the 'Singularity' as a concept in futurism: with a Unified Theory of Everything, and true Artificial Intelligence... well, there are no more brakes on this train.

    Honestly, looking over the list... it really does depend on how much Leoreth wants to maintain consistency. Most of the ancient/classical columns fit the '____ Age' model, many of the modern columns are 'Age of _____', and everything in the middle is a free-for-all.

    Ancient Era
    - Stone Age
    - Copper Age
    - Bronze Age
    Classical Era
    - Iron Age
    - Axial Age
    - Classical Antiquity ?
    Medieval Era
    - Late Antiquity ?
    - High Medieval Age ?
    - Renaissance / Late Medieval Age?
    Early Modern Era
    - Age of Exploration
    - Age of Absolutism
    - Age of Revolutions
    Industrial Era
    - Age of Steam
    - Age of Rail
    - Age of Electricity / Industrial Revolution
    Global Era
    - Modern Age
    - Atomic Age
    - Space Age
    Digital Era
    - Computer Age
    - Information Age
    - Singularity
     
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