Inner cities and suburbs

[LucyDuke]

Been to LA? Strange that there are millions of people who either still live there or flocking to it. I guess some people have a preference for crap.

You misunderstand me. I don't dispute that people want to live in LA right now.

 

[Thoughtful Thug]

People are flocking to LA because it beats living in a shanty town in the developing world. That said LA is more dense than most people realize, it is one of the densest big cities in the country.

So they prefer to live in a better sophisticated crap than a crap that is less sophisticated? Wow? Great option of what crap to live in I guess.

 

[Drewcifer]

Actually I don't think that LA is a crap city. It is a much more interesting place than most people in the rest of the country give it credit for. I was just pointing out in a backhanded way that it's growth is comming from immigration. Without immigration it's population would be in decline right now. The ratio of wages compared to cost of living is much more attractive in other parts of the country.

 

[Thoughtful Thug]

You maybe right. But I can't get this out of my mind. The smog, congested traffic, and other things that doesn't please the eyes nor the nose.

I guess places like that are not for guys in small towns like me.

 

[Narz]

My geography professor in the university states that the process of suburbanization is only going to continue in the future, and he states that as countries become more developed, the more suburbanization they experience.

Your professor lives in la-la land. He should learn about peak oil. Suburbs, as we know them today, are not sustainable.

 

[GoodGame]

In some areas, at least near me, suburbia is so dense and in close contact with farms/industrial park/town centers, I see it just nucleating new boroughs.

 

[downtown]

Yeah, the suburbanizing forces are never going to be as strong as they used to be. Eventually, you reach a max. distance away from the CBD...either because fuel expenses are too high, or because the commute time is too high.

 

[Kraznaya]

Of course most cities in the US are also experiencing gentrification, so..

 

[Ulyaoth]

Cities suck. Suburbs suck. But cities suck much much more. Suburbs really just suck when they're too much one way or the other, either too much like the city(the further west you go in Nassau) to too country like and sprawled(Suffolk past the first few towns).

 

[Theige]

Cities suck. Suburbs suck. But cities suck much much more. Suburbs really just suck when they're too much one way or the other, either too much like the city(the further west you go in Nassau) to too country like and sprawled(Suffolk past the first few towns).

Wait, cities suck, suburbs suck, and when you get suburbs that are too like country they suck too.

What doesn't suck?

 

[Narz]

What doesn't suck?

A eco-utopia green city with monkey butlers & run on money funneled out of dying banks.

 

[Ulyaoth]

A eco-utopia green city with monkey butlers & run on money funneled out of dying banks.

Exactly.

 

[Bill3000]

A eco-utopia green city with monkey butlers & run on money funneled out of dying banks.

No, those suck too.

 

[Theige]

A eco-dystopia green city with monkey butlers & run on money funneled out of dying banks.

Fixed.

 

[History_Buff]

Your professor is wrong. It's not the States of course, but here in Calgary we're starting to see people moving inwards into the city. Suburbanization is continuing of course, but the pace is slowing. What's more, the City has finally accepted that it's growth is completely unsustainable and is taking steps to halt further growth.

From what I've seen, people who grew up in suburbs are pretty sick of them. There's nothing nearby, you're forced to drive everywhere, you have no relationship with your neighbours, etc. So while they're not moving downtown, the older neighbourhoods are seeing a lot of new development. The older folks who used to live there are dying/moving away, and the old houses are being torn down and the lots subdivided into half width infills. The people moving into them are typically young, upper middle class folks with no kids. It's close to downtown (and thus work), the neighbourhoods are stunningly beautiful, and you're finally liberated from your car. You can't have 5 kids in there of course, but who the devil wants that these days?

 

[ladsud]

I love the suburbs compared to the city I was raised a 15 minute drive from. Detroit.

 

[Narz]

No, those suck too.

They don't exist yet.

Even better would be a sustainable city built on a stolen aircraft carrier. As long as there is somewhere habitable left on Earth we will be a'ight! Also, city defense? No problem. We've got subs with long range missiles roving around us like guard dogs!

 

[civ_king]

I prefer my city to living in SF, of course my city is 160 years old and has 115k residents so it's not exactly like a 'burb of SF but once the Navy left that's what it became

They don't exist yet.

Even better would be a sustainable city built on a stolen aircraft carrier. As long as there is somewhere habitable left on Earth we will be a'ight! Also, city defense? No problem. We've got subs with long range missiles roving around us like guard dogs!

what would be the population of said city?

 

[Bill3000]

A sustainable aircraft carrier?

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Atlanta has some fairly "ghetto" suburbs, and in recent years regentrification has been attracting the wealthy (especially wealthy blacks and homosexuals) to formerly impoverished inner city neighborhoods.