Intelligent design it's ok but does it have pirates?

[Sidhe]

Anyone done a thread about intelligent design recently? So what do you think more reasonable than evolution a load of old huey?

Bear in mind I am a reverend of the church of FSM now so, no noodly proselytising unless it's strictly under the guidelines of your church, any mention of ninjas and pirates accordingly.

I found this web site, do you think it's a good spoofing of the intelligent design myth and what are your thoughts?

I know FSM is obviously light hearted satire but I want to keep this thread free of spam and have a serious discussion about why you think intelligent design is say a) creationism repackaged? Or something else?

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/FSM

Overview

The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a composite deity composed of two separate, and distinct parts. It is the central point of worship in the religion commonly known as Flying Spaghetti Monsterism or Pastafarianism, according to which it is The Creator and Overseer, watching our lives and our world, changing them as it sees fit. Bobby Henderson is the guru of this religion. He too, has huge, spicy meatballs.

Flying Spaghetti Monsterism is the world's most edible and fastest-growing religion.
The One True Monster

Though he is called Monster, he really is not one, he is the love of all lives, hence "Flying Spaghetti Lover" (yes with BIG BIG Noodly Appendages, so non-gays BEWARE). As previously noted, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is composed of two separate, and distinct parts (three if it happens to be covered in Parmesan cheese):
The Major Pastaer

* The Flying: This part of the Flying Spaghetti Monster gives it flight, allowing it to span infinite distances in infinitesimal spans of time. This part is irreducibly complex, hyper-real (see Weird Calculus), and cannot be broken down into components. Doing so – if it were even possible, and it isn't – would incur the wrath of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. It is proven by this series of math-like squiggles:

The original formula revealed to Pastafarian scholars did not include the butter and toast element, which is necessary to relate kittens to antigravity. The Flying Spaghetti Monster inspired this revision one day He skipped breakfast.

* The Spaghetti Monster: This is commonly recognized as the "body" of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and, unlike its other major counterpart, is composed of several smaller sections. These are called the Minor Pastaer.

The Minor Pastaer

* The Meatera:It is a symbol of strength and fortitude. This is the source of the Flying Spaghetti Monster's power.
* The Spaghettien: Proceeds from the Meatera. Also known as the "Noodly Appendage," this allows for the Flying Spaghetti Monster to extend its grasp across the reaches of the universe, affecting everything and anything.
* The Saucon: Issues forth from the Meatara and the Spaghettien. This is the veil of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Through this, it is unseen and intangible, but allows it to affect anything and everything at will. There is a great deal more documentation on this phenomenon, but I wish to keep this section from being too lengthy. It also allows the Flying Spaghetti Monster to cloak itself as different images, such as Dinosaurs.

Noodle-Light Theory
A highly simplified overview of the Noodle-Light Theory
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A highly simplified overview of the Noodle-Light Theory

Perhaps one of the more important of the recent theories in the field of Pastafarianism is PENILE (shorthand "noggin" speak for "Pastafarian-Encouraged Noodle-Influenced Light Effect"). The maths involved in fully explaining this effect is completely incomprehensible to anyone but doctors, or someone wearing a hat that has "Doctor" or some derivative thereof written on it; however, the overall effect is simple, logical, and impervious to criticism. Quite simply, light traveling from a light source (the sun, a flashlight, or This guy) is influenced by the Flying Spaghetti Monster according to His will, and then received by our undeserving eyeballs. How this influencing comes about is as of yet uncertain - current theories range from interception and retransmission, to an external quantum transfer of information, to "just because He damn well wants to" - however, the end result is certain: we only see what He wants us to see.

This explains a multitude of issues that until now remained complete mysteries, for example:

1. Why even with today's modern photographic technologies, ninja remain completely invisible to the human eye. The PENILE theory gives us the obvious conclusion: how can we see something that He wills us not to? These deflected images are referred to as "artifacted light", and quite possibly the hallucinations given by kitten huffing are due to some feline ability to absorb these images and store them in their soul.
2. Why His image is perfect - every day he creates His image in the minds of millions, and every image is perfect in all His meaty glory. The image is adjusted to suit the mind for truly global appeal. Except if he hates you. Then he sends images of gay porn. This, coincidentally, explains why priests are so very fruity. This is referred to as the "noodlyfying" of the light.
3. Why Lindsay Lohan has suddenly become anemic, seemingly against all logic. Remember: we only have eyes for Him. He has the ability to destroy all visual competition with merely a sleight of noodle.

This theory, however, is often maligned in the eyes of both rabid Pastafarians, and vehement opposers of Pastafarianism. Many Pastafarians put forth the logic that His creation is exactly as he planned, from the beginning until forever, and requires no such tricks to sweep inconsistencies under the rug, as it were. However, He wishes us to feel as if we're in control of our destinies, whether for greater pasta, or for linguini. This is his opiate of the masses.
Theory of Gravity and FSMism

New theories suggest that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is responsible for the illusion of gravity. Like Intelligent Falling, it is believed He is responsible for pushing objects back to the ground with the glorious multiplicity of his noodles, rather than any kind of gravitational attraction. This would solve the conflict between relativity and quantum mechanics.
Spaghetti-Meatball Duality

Ever since it's discovery the concept of wave-particle duality has confounded scientists. Obviously something cannot be a wave and a particle at the same time, if you have a single brain in your head you would know that. But as with all things in life it becomes clear when FSM is applied. You see, elementary particles are actually tiny meatballs and the waves that they are one with are actually spaghetti noodles. This phenomenon is a mechanism created by FSM so that he could easily change appearance and can only be seen by his followers.

 

[warpus]

I am reminded of this:

 

[Sidhe]

Indeed that's where it comes from it's the reason why FSM is categorically proven to exist, as global warming reflects the FSM's ire at the lack of pirates, see the image on the site for more details that's what reminded me of this on another thread. It's very Monty Pythonesque humour. In fact it's mislabled it should be global warming/FSM's wrath.

I find I can live with intelligent design generally much more easilly than with creationism as technically intelligent design doesn't rule out the possibility of evolution being true so there's less argument, however some people especially Dawkins find the need to rant against this also as nonsense? Where do people stand?

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Pop_culture_FSM.jpg

Creation.

Long ago, His Noodliness decided, in his great wisdom, to make stuff. His first task was easily the most difficult. On the first day, he made a mountain, trees and a "midgit" (sic). The midgit (sic) took the greatest time, as He had to create a small human, having never even created a human before. At the end of that day, it was so, at which point, He spent the next 3 days making everything else, including the first 3-day weekend, the Shroud of Napkin, and fake carbon atoms to fool scientists and geologists. He then rested on the 5th, 6th and 7th days.

He initially created cave men with the intention of making a race that could be looked down upon by humans, but upon offending Him greatly, they were destroyed. He then created the dinosaurs as a companion to man. However, too many pirate ships sank due to the dinosaurs' great size, so they too were destroyed. The same happened with the giant sloth and the woolly mammoth. The dodo actually passed the test, but this was the result of a clerical error and was corrected when humans invaded the dodos' abode on an island.

 

[GenMarshall]

Just a bunch of hodge podge to me.

 

[De Lorimier]

I'm really starting to think that our pal Sidhe has way, waaaaayyyyyy too much time on his hands.

 

[Sidhe]

I'm really starting to think that our pal Sidhe has way, waaaaayyyyyy too much time on his hands.

Week off but really I do want a serious discussion about ID, what are peoples thoughts?

Plus reading that web site had me in stitches for days. but that's beside the point. I included it because it sums up what I think of intelligent design if. It merely says creation came about at the hand of God and could not of come about independantlly.

Some religions, Catholicism in particular are often ok with this with some serious caveats but it's not out of there religous beliefs, saying fine God created the universe and man was a natural result of his universe but we still think he created man, even if it did take x billion years? And this both sides can pretty much happily live with. Science can't answer what happened before the big bang, and intelligent design can't answer how the process might of started naturally, seems like a happy truce right? Wrong

 

[GenMarshall]

Week off but really I do want a serious discussion about ID, what are peoples thoughts?

ID (Intelegent Design as not to confuse the other ID)
aint going to fly with me. I believe in Theistic Evolution in which God created the universe thus providing the building blocks for life and left the rest alone and let thing take their course.

 

[Phlegmak]

Week off but really I do want a serious discussion about ID, what are peoples thoughts?

Has there not been enough threads about this? You could just dig up one of Perfection's threads.

 

[Sidhe]

Has there not been enough threads about this? You could just dig up one of Perfection's threads.

His is about creationism this is specifically about ID. So no they are not the same. Perfections killed creationism anyway at least on this forum so why not have a go at Intelligent Design in its more zealous form, Evolution is wrong, God created man etc.

 

[Kozmos]

I am a pirate and I worship the FSM. He guides me through the rough waters of piracy and bootlegging. Unlike the Christian God(LIAR!)he created the world in 4 days and rested the other 3.

 

[Masquerouge]

The FSM is old stuff, but it's always nice to be reminded of It, or HIm, or That, or...

 

[Sidhe]

The FSM is old stuff, but it's always nice to be reminded of It, or HIm, or That, or...

It's him and people have been made to walk the plank before for even suggesting it or that or... please try not to make this about ecumenical issues, let's just say him and leave it at that K?

 

[warpus]

Just a bunch of hodge podge to me.

I think you get the point

 

[Kozmos]

Just a bunch of hodge podge to me.

Heathen. Anime is hodge podge. Whatever the hell hodge podge is! YEEEEEARGH!

 

[Pontiuth Pilate]

FSM was funny when only a few people (incl me ) knew about it.

Just like "Snakes On A Plane." Once everyone thinks it's funny and understands what it's about, it's no longer funny.

 

[Guangxi]

I am a pirate and I worship the FSM. He guides me through the rough waters of piracy and bootlegging. Unlike the Christian God(LIAR!)he created the world in 4 days and rested the other 3.

a pirate!
i thank you for your aid in stopping global warming.

 

[GinandTonic]

Sidhe -

How does your Spag Bol recepie not have red wine? No onions/ shallots? No "other seasonal veg"?

FSM nearly had a convert...

EDIT - And no Tomato purée or Passata? Better hope those Tomatos are just bursting with flavor...

 

[Mise]

Sidhe -

How does your Spag Bol recepie not have red wine? No onions/ shallots? No "other seasonal veg"?

FSM nearly had a convert...

EDIT - And no Tomato purée or Passata? Better hope those Tomatos are just bursting with flavor...

That's the beauty of it, you only have to take it literally when it suits you.

 

[brennan]

Unlike the Christian God(LIAR!)he created the world in 4 days and rested the other 3.

Clear superiority over the 6-day abrahamic pretender...and they call him omnipotent

 

[Swedishguy]

By Knubb! Intelligent Design equals BS!

Atheists say that Evolution is something that can't be ignored! Fact of Evolution will not give in to this dogma!

But I'm not an Atheist, I'm a Knubbist...