Narz
keeping it real
How about invading Iran? (poll coming)
Invading Iran!
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bigdog5994
Lady Day
why would we invade Iran? just for the hell of it? if so then no
WICKLC1
King
Only if they develop nukes or they attack the US or one of its allies. Or any combination of the two.
demokratickid
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Never, its a bad idea. Period.
History_Buff
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Not a good idea ATM. It will piss off a great deal of the Middle East, and then there's the part where America is in no position to pull it off. The Air Force alone could likely cripple the entire country, and much like Iraq, the invasion would likely be like kicking in the rotton barn door.
But if you kick down too many barn doors, then eventually the rest of the barn comes down on you; there would need to be massive recruitment and deployment to maintain any sort of order in the country, which would be massively unpopular at home, particularly since it's just more casualities. A guerilla war would result, and the final result would not be pretty.
But if you kick down too many barn doors, then eventually the rest of the barn comes down on you; there would need to be massive recruitment and deployment to maintain any sort of order in the country, which would be massively unpopular at home, particularly since it's just more casualities. A guerilla war would result, and the final result would not be pretty.
amadeus
rad thibodeaux-xs
There's nothing in Iran we can accomplish with ground troops that we can't with B-52s and B-1s.
bigdog5994
Lady Day
only a sith deals in absolutes
amadeus
rad thibodeaux-xs
This is the part that confuses me; the only Arab country aligned with Iran is Syria.
WICKLC1
King
Yeah, we probably shouldn't send troops on the ground next time. The air force and navy can blow up the bad guys, claim victory, and then call it a day!
Ecofarm
Deity
If? Have you been in the bush for a few decandes?
Saudi probably fears them and is cool with Ahwackjob being denied nukes.
Students, businessmen from UAE... they can find democratic leadership. The US looking for it was kinda absurb. Yea, let people who do not speak the language or understand the custom, for the most part, figure out who to support... An Arab League lead invasion with US support... how about that? What if we had troops from other Muslim countries on the front. Would the students join us then?
Saudi may go somehwat peacefully like the English, Swedes or Egyptian (?) tyrants.
Integral
Can't you hear it?
Not right now, thanks.
I'm perfectly confident that we could bomb Iran to the ground, but we don't have the resources or the manpower to clean up the resulting mess.
I'm perfectly confident that we could bomb Iran to the ground, but we don't have the resources or the manpower to clean up the resulting mess.
Ecofarm
Deity
We send in the UN! How many blue-hat guys they gonna kill before Europe gets off its arse? Let's see.
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Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran
Oh yes we caaan.
Sing it with me!
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Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran
Oh yes we caaan.
Sing it with me!
Commodore Nate
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Invade Iran? lol wut
As if we wanted more people pissed off at the US.
As if we wanted more people pissed off at the US.
Ecofarm
Deity
I wonder how many of those objecting do so on monetary grounds (~screw the browns, I want my HDTV*). I'm looking at you, so-called conservatives.
*New song, as per "I want my MTV"...
I got my x'box
my PS3...
Another MTV generation, except this new one pushes buttons to make the screen colors change.
*New song, as per "I want my MTV"...
I got my x'box
my PS3...
Another MTV generation, except this new one pushes buttons to make the screen colors change.
The Tollan
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The current efforts should be based on figuring a way to prevent Iran from finishing its quest to acquire nuclear weapons without combat. Any type of combat, especially and by, a long shot, a ground war or conflict will be very problematic. Iran would cause a lot more trouble than Saddam Hussein (with perhaps the sole solace being that there would be someone to actually try to make peace with if you could get peace after once this conflagration begins). So conflict should be avoided however that does not mean that the international community should do nothing to stop Iran from pursuing nuclear weapons (which is the probable objective unless the whole thing is some nutty scheme to humour Ahmadinejad by agreeing to try to make the West look bad-which would not work if that is their goal). This stoppage will require several countries to be on board. Winning even more backing from Russian, China, and to a lesser extent India will be fairly difficult, however probably possible. The main issue is whether they will carry through with the sanctions that they help formulate (less of a problem with India). There has been considerable international cooperation on the issue, however so far Iran remains recalcitrant. A political shakeup in Iran might bring this closer to a resolution. Carrots and sticks will both be needed. Unforunately Ahmadinejad and his allies seem to be a terrible influence on the diplomacy of the government he is a part. They may (just saying may not will) get Iran nuclear weapons, however at a high price. If Israel and Iran enter conflict when both have nuclear weapons that could be very serious.
I read some poll data from the Pew Center that seems to indicate that Iran acquiring nuclear weapons is viewed very unfavorably by huge segements of the world's population. There are some exceptions but for the most part very few want this to happen. Perhaps this is not suprising but still useful to mention. Ahmadinejad is not held in much confidence to "do the right thing" by the overwhelming majority of the world's population either according to the poll data.
Here is the link:
http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?ReportID=256
If you want to see information about Iran go all the way to down to the end of the page and click, "Complete Report." The topline section has most of the Iranian information. Both reports (from the same survey data) have a lot of other interesting things in them too. You might have to do a word search to get to the Iranian part quickly.
I read some poll data from the Pew Center that seems to indicate that Iran acquiring nuclear weapons is viewed very unfavorably by huge segements of the world's population. There are some exceptions but for the most part very few want this to happen. Perhaps this is not suprising but still useful to mention. Ahmadinejad is not held in much confidence to "do the right thing" by the overwhelming majority of the world's population either according to the poll data.
Here is the link:
http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?ReportID=256
If you want to see information about Iran go all the way to down to the end of the page and click, "Complete Report." The topline section has most of the Iranian information. Both reports (from the same survey data) have a lot of other interesting things in them too. You might have to do a word search to get to the Iranian part quickly.
Ecofarm
Deity
How about naval conflict? A coalition could blocakde, and Iran's speedboats/crop dusters could not do anything about it. It would not bear substantive difference from a modern day blockade of Cuba. Easy peasy.
I'm not so sure the country has intellectuals or competant businessmen left alive.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
I am not doing anything next wednesday....that good for you?
