Iron Curtain not working

[werothegreat]

I posted this in bug reports, but I wanted to know if anyone else had a similar problem. Playing as Poland, I took Order as my Ideology, and eventually took Iron Curtain, which gives a free Courthouse on city capture, as a tenet. This was during a war with the Zulu, but none of the cities I captured got a free Courthouse. Anyone else notice this?

 

[Theruss]

I noticed this too. However, I think the problem with that tenet is you cannot choose puppet and then annex. I did not get the free courthouses doing it that way. When I chose annex immediately after capturing a city, only then, did the free courthouse pop up.

If you are annexing the cities right from the get go and the free courthouse is not shown in the building list. Wait for the captured city to get out of the "resistance" status. Then check for the courthouse.

 

[Socratatus]

I`ve never understood the logic of a courthouse stopping people being unhappy. But an iron curtain I can understand (it don`t stop people being unhappy, but stops them doing anything about it)...

Iron curtain maybe up in my new Civ! Does that make me a mean man?

 

[NukeAJS]

You need to annex the city as soon as it's captured. Because the courthouse immediately appears, you'll get the same unhappiness as you would if you puppeted it. It'll still have the normal resistance and the costs of SPs will go up accordingly.

I personally don't understand why they just don't let iron curtain put a courthouse in puppeted cities too. It's free, so no gold maintenance, and it wouldn't do anything except for sit there because there would be no unhappiness from occupied citizens (because it's a puppet).

So basically, you have to unlearn the newb trap of hitting the annex button as soon as you capture a city. With iron curtain, you really only have two options -- raze (in which case you get a courthouse anyways) or annex. The only reason to puppet with iron curtain is to keep the costs of SPs down; however, that's probably not that big of a concern because you have a level three ideology tenet.

Oh, and also, the annex/puppet/raze screen is messed up with iron curtain. The tooltip for annex will state the unhappiness without a courthouse -- which you will get immediately upon annexing. The tooltip from puppeting a captured city is the correct amount of unhappiness you will get from annexing with iron curtain.

So yeah, just annex or raze everything you come across with iron curtain. The only situation I could see puppeting something would be that you will get an extremely important SP that you absolutely must have next turn. But even if you do annex immediately, you'll probably just wait one extra turn (if that) anyways.

 

[Deggial]

I`ve never understood the logic of a courthouse stopping people being unhappy.

It's because 'Happiness' is (once again) an unfitting expression for a totally fine game mechanism.

Replace it with 'Stability' and everything falls neatly into place...

 

[Gyra Solune]

It's because 'Happiness' is (once again) an unfitting expression for a totally fine game mechanism.

Replace it with 'Stability' and everything falls neatly into place...

Happiness is something of a catch-all term for the stability and contentedness of your citizenry. Colosseums and Stadiums help because entertainment for the masses provides relief for belligerent emotions and directs the energies of your populace towards excitement rather than revolution. Courthouses represent the flip side of that coin: rather than adding happiness, they reduce elements of dissent by laying down the law in a city torn asunder by damages and conquest. Ultimately they represent the same net outcome: whether or not your empire is a safe, peaceful place from within.

The term Happiness works because it gets across the point to your average joe, that by doing this, your people will be happier, which is better. Plus while the mechanics entail Stability being a better name, the aftereffects do not, namely, in what provides Happiness. You'd expect buildings like Police Stations or Military Bases to provide Stability, but Stadiums and Zoos? That's a bit silly IMO.

 

[kaspergm]

You need to annex the city as soon as it's captured.

This is not true. I took the policy once and noticed I got the courthouses even when I puppeted the cities. Then I saved the game and reloaded next day, and the courthouses were gone. I'm pretty sure this is a load/save issue.

 

[Tachii]

This is not true. I took the policy once and noticed I got the courthouses even when I puppeted the cities. Then I saved the game and reloaded next day, and the courthouses were gone. I'm pretty sure this is a load/save issue.

Uh...

Really?
Sounds like a bug. I know when you just captured the city, if I view the city currently, it has the free courthouse. But if I puppet the free courthouse is gone. If I annexed after puppeting it for sometime the free courthouse isn't there.

The interface also need to be reworked, I think. It still display that annexing the city means a bigger loss in happiness. However with the free courthouse, you usually get the same happiness loss as you puppet the city instead.