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Is a hamburger a sandwich?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by BvBPL, Mar 15, 2015.

  1. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    Why do you say that wraps and burritos should be considered differently? A burrito is stuff wrapped up in a thing, and so is a wrap. If one is a sandwich, so is the other.
     
  2. NetGear

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    hamburgers as sandwiches... its like taco bell calling their steak as beef.
     
  3. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    Wait. Taco bell do beef? I thought they must be a cheese-related franchise.

    As in Babybel and minibels. Though why you'd want those in a taco shell I never did fathom.



    I can see I'll have to readjust my world-view once again.
     
  4. classical_hero

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    They are a "Mexican" food store. I used the quotes because real Mexican food has no similarities to what Taco Bell puts out.
     
  5. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    Ah. So it's tortillas and chili all the way.
     
  6. Lohrenswald

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    Well, the thing is that hamburgersandwiches are a subset of sandwiches, so there naturally wouldn't be equivalence. A sandwich doesn't have to imply a hamburgersandwich, but a hamburgersandwich impies a sandwich.

    It translates to butterbread, but you don't always use butter. Personally I usually just call it bread slices. And by the way, this is the sensible way to eat bread.
     
  7. Owen Glyndwr

    Owen Glyndwr La Femme Moderne

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    Because one is ingredients stacked between two slices of bread or two halves of bread. The other is ingredients wrapped in a single, uncut piece of flatbread. They have bread and ingredients, but beyond that they aren't the same thing at all.
     
  8. Gori the Grey

    Gori the Grey The Poster

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    Wraps are closer to sandwiches than are burritos, additionally, because one tends to hold a wrap in one's hand, as one does a sandwich, but tends to eat a burrito with a knife and fork.

    We're going to have to design a continuum.
     
  9. warpus

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    I think you misread what I wrote - I was asking what the fundamental difference between wraps and burritos is.

    They're both wrapped up using a single uncut piece of flatbread.

    Really? I have only ever eaten burritos with my hands.
     
  10. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    I'm amazed this thread has continued so long. I didn't think it would make it past page 1.

    Who'd have thought sandwiches would be such a vast subject?
     
  11. azzaman333

    azzaman333 meh

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    It's a turkey roll, not a turkey sandwich.

    I have no idea what that means.

    I don't think it's ridiculous at all. Calling everything a sandwich is just needlessly confusing.
     
  12. Gori the Grey

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    ^^Oh, we're just getting started, Mister Io.

    I have dozens of follow up questions for when the thread slows down.

    It's gonna become a serial thread, I can see it.
     
  13. Commodore

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    Same. The only burrito I ever ate with utensils is the smothered burrito at Taco Bell. That's because they cover the whole thing in sauce, so if you don't mind getting sauce all over yourself, I guess you could eat that one with your hands too.
     
  14. Owen Glyndwr

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    I consider a burrito to be a wrap.
     
  15. warpus

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    Yeah, but I was asking "what's the difference between a wrap and a burrito?"

    and you responded with

    and that confused me.

    Either way, I agree that burritos and a wraps can be both classified as meta-wraps.
     
  16. Timsup2nothin

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    There are lots of better places to get a burrito covered in sauce than at a Taco Bell. Come visit and we will expand your burrito horizons.

    I thought meta wrap being distinct from meta sandwich was a good distinction to start with, and I think Gori has provided conclusive support with the point regarding verbs.
     
  17. Camikaze

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    I suspect the peculiarity lies with the American usage (surprise, surprise). Before entering this thread I had never conceived of the possibility of someone calling a hamburger a sandwich. Sandwiches and burgers are two separate categories. The former does not incorporate the latter or any other potential category such as sub, roll, or wrap. Really it's a matter of social convention, and the American social convention appears to be quite self-evidently wrong.
     
  18. Timsup2nothin

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    When considering the establishment of social conventions it should be noted there are a lot more Americans saying sandwich than there are Australians saying 'sub' or 'roll' so if we apply weight by usage the American convention will be correct. Someone asks me if I want a sub I will say that I did my time in the navy. Someone asks if I want a roll I will assess what she looks like and decide how to answer.
     
  19. warpus

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    I think I almost know enough about sandwiches to create a venn diagram of sandwiches and wraps and meta versions thereof. But I don't really feel like doing that..
     
  20. Timsup2nothin

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    I save things like that for days when someone expects me to work, at which point they seem far more important.
     

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