Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by gazius, Sep 22, 2010.
I'm having a good time with the game, out of the metaphorical, steamy, box. Am I alone in this?
You are not alone, I am enjoying it as well, there are enough familiar elements and the changes are quite interesting, people seem to forget that each Civ game tends to introduce new concepts and improve upon it's predecessor, I think Firaxis did a wonderful job this time around. Off to play more civv!
I'm sure you aren't, I think this is very much a vocal minority situation
I also think people are ripping into it a bit more than usual due to the... passion of civ's fans. for me personally, everything i've seen thus far looks brilliant and I absolutely can not wait until friday
I am enjoying the demo, if that's what you mean
And I found it to run quite well on my DX10 card (ATI 3870)
I like the game and I'm ejoying it.
This said.. I think it lacks something, while playing I sometimes find myself missing Civ4.
Anyway, with some time I'm sure everything will be polished, holes will get filled and the new civilization title will become a masterpiece, once again.
The game is fun in itself, but it had a lot to live up to and I think a lot of people feel that more features were taken away than added.
the people who are enjoying the game are the ones that arent posting yet.
the people who are disappointed are the most active ones so its pretty obvious what the majority of the new threads contain.
You should also remember that when a new game has just been released there's always some problems, especially with PC games.
Those who come to the forum right after playing the game are almost always those who are having problems with it or who are just dissapointed and want to vent, meanwhile those who are happy with the game just keep on playing. This is such a common pattern in nearly every forum for a game, especially at the time of the release. Although I have only played the demo, so I will reserve judgment for CIV5.
If you compare Civ5 to Civ4 + expansions this is surely the case.
But, in my opinion, you should compare it to valilla Civ4.
Let's remove from Civ4: Great Generals, Unique Buildings, Vassals, Colonies, Espionage, Corporations, Random Events (plus many units types, techs, buildings and wonders). I'm sure the comparison would be a little more fair (Civ5 would still lack something though).
That's fair enough, BTS was just so good, but it'd be nice if it wasn't necessary to buy another add-on to get similar functionality.
The 19 hour marathon I just finished is pretty well proof that I love this game, it's not without it's flaws, some graphical glitches and stuttering, but overall it's exactly what I was hoping for.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to bed, I need to be up in 2 hours for work...
Based on people who post here on a regular basis, and the fact that they have been missing for the most part since yesterday, I think it is very very safe to say that the vast majority are enjoying the game.
There are some people who don't like it (there are still some who preferred civ 3 to civ 4) and others who are still getting used to it. Myself, played the demo and have loved it but want to play with my chosen civ and map settings before making a final judgement.
Are there issues in the demo, yes, but hell it is fun.
People with problems always complain more than the people playing and enjoying something. This gives an massively shifted reception of the game on fan sites and stuff, for every complainer theirs probably 5 who are playing it and not nit picking. As such votes get skewed, opinion seems negative and people jump on the bandwagon to fit in. All the TW forums I used to post on went like this, theres alot of people there who still like it but every thread gets hijacked with "no mod tools sega iz liarz" it's quite a lot of peer pressure to fit in when half the board is whineing and calling any positive review fan boi extremeism.
Sums up my feelings. I also think that alot of things that stayed but got changed, didn't need changing.
Im open to new ideas, but change for the sake of change is not really my cup of tea. I would have preffered to see things that needed improving get improved instead of throwing out half the game and stripping most of the useful information out of the interface.
Im sure its a great game in it's own right, but i dont think it's "better" than Civ 4. Ateast not yet. Civ 4 with hexes and new combat system would destroy this so called "sequel"
Some minor annoyances aside, I'm loving it really... I agree that it should be compared to Vanilla Civ instead of +BtS and Warlords.
The reason why a lot of the posters on the forum only have negative things to say, is because anyone who likes it i can gaurantee as been playing it 24/7.
Unfortuneatly i only have the demo, but im heading off to do another 100 turns.
I've been ranting a bit, mainly regarding graphics. But I still want to play the hell out of it
That's gotta count for something.
I also only have the demo, so it's getting a bit boring (especially as it's only one map), but I'm having a very good time!
I agree, it's largely due to everyone who loves it is moving between bouts of playing, and bouts of short unconsciousness.
It takes some getting used to - its a bit of a system shock. I don't feel that the loss of religions, random events, or even espionage is a bad thing right now. Religion always annoyed me in core Civ IV, it was only when it was taken to new heights with mods like Rise of Mankind or Fall From Heaven that the system became good. Random events are random annoyances, and espionage needs a whole new system rather than a copypaste of Civ IVs. Which I am willing to wait for.
Trade those for hex-tiles, a brand new tactical combat system that works FANTASTICALLY (If I never see another Stack of Doom I will die a happy man), the sexy new graphical look over Civ IVs "I don't take myself seriously" look? Yes. Civ V is superior. It just lacks a 5-year history of patches and expansions that Civ IV comes with. Far better than Civ IV was on launch, imho.
Have only been able to play the demo so far but really am loving it. Cant wait for the full version.
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