Is anyone suspicious?

[Mr_Wonka]

Why would Firaxis be making civ 5? My impression is most obviously wrong, but I thought they said they were moving beyond the pc format. They civ rev and facebook civ to work with.

First let me say, I am excited to see them working on a new Civ game. I'm a huge fan of them. But I'm curious as to why they are going through with it. It really seemed as civ 4 was the peak of the series. I have a feeling take 2 was pushing them to do it. Since they're a public company and all they have to keep them shareholders happy. Everyone knows you can fall back on a new civ game and this game will sell big.

I just always thought Sid had other goals in mind then trying to reinvent civ from interviews I read! Lets hope that civ 5 can live up to its sisters!

 

[kiwitt]

Civ 6 will be out in 2015

 

[civ_king]

Massive money to be made

 

[King Kalmah]

Its been almost 5 years since civ4....I think Sid wanted to make Civ better,,,

Besides I'd be suspisous if the game was made in 2000 then a sequal was made ten years later

 

[AlpsStranger]

The worst that can happen is that Civ5 sucks. It'll be disappointing, but it's not like they can disable my Civ4. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain by them releasing a sequel.

 

[Zomgmeister]

“Moving beyond” does not necessarily means “leaving behind and don't looking back”. They just expand their horizons and grab new markets, but, as it seems, they aren't leaving their homeland — PC gaming.

 

[villagelder]

Why would Firaxis be making civ 5?

Money!
Money!
Money!

We are still in the middle of a recession - trust me, I am laid off in a small city with no jobs to be found - and Civ 5 is a guaranteed franchise. They will certainly improve their revenue and stock worth when they release a game and all us sheep who have followed it upwards of 20 years will buy it. Not that I mind, I love the Civ franchise. That is merely the economics of it, despite Firaxis previously stating they were not getting on the gravy train.

Steven Spieldburg also said (previously) he would not make E.T. 2, and I think they are currently working on a script.

 

[Dale]

Why would Firaxis be making civ 5? My impression is most obviously wrong, but I thought they said they were moving beyond the pc format. They civ rev and facebook civ to work with.

First let me say, I am excited to see them working on a new Civ game. I'm a huge fan of them. But I'm curious as to why they are going through with it. It really seemed as civ 4 was the peak of the series. I have a feeling take 2 was pushing them to do it. Since they're a public company and all they have to keep them shareholders happy. Everyone knows you can fall back on a new civ game and this game will sell big.

I just always thought Sid had other goals in mind then trying to reinvent civ from interviews I read! Lets hope that civ 5 can live up to its sisters!

Sid is not making Civ5, Jon Shafer is. Sid is making Civ Networks. Sid is still pushing the online Civ version (MMOTBS?) whilst a capable person looks after the staple version.

Open Civ up to other platforms != stopping the PC version.

 

[Afforess]

Sid is not making Civ5, Jon Shafer is.

Which is fine with me. I've seen Jon's name in more than one of the Civ4 SDK files. His experience with Civ4 should allow him to make Civ5 even better.

 

[vonSharma]

Civ 4 had a lot of room for improvement. once they can make an AI that doesn't need massive help on Emperor, then it doesn't matter what extra in combat and techs and whatever they have... only then can be the ultimate Civ

 

[Afforess]

Civ 4 had a lot of room for improvement. once they can make an AI that doesn't need massive help on Emperor, then it doesn't matter what extra in combat and techs and whatever they have... only then can be the ultimate Civ

The AI is actually really good if you remove the "Psuedo-Emotion" Firaxis gave them.

<shameless self-promotion>

I added a game option to my mod called "Ruthless AI" that removed Firaxis's Emotional Restrictions and the AI moved up three difficulty levels.

</shameless self-promotion>

It's the leaders trying to pretend to act like humans that make them stupid.

 

[Earthling]

Besides I'd be suspisous if the game was made in 2000 then a sequal was made ten years later

i c waht u did their

There's obviously no way this announcement is false though, companies don't work that way. I am still a little unsure of whether civ V will be a truly worthy sequel and add something new and great to the series, but it's definitely getting/been made.

The AI is actually really good if you remove the "Psuedo-Emotion" Firaxis gave them.

I agree, and I also agree some fix/changing that setup in the new version is needed and would be nice.

I never have made a mod of civ4; however, I would vastly prefer to go the other way (know I'm in a minority who think that). But instead of the AI being more "gamist" I'd like to force the player to be less so - rather than diplomacy wonkiness like exists now, massive citizen happiness/economic penalties etc...would result from a human randomly DOWing like most humans do. At the same time a few bumps like making AI civs wary towards all warmongers (including each other) would go a bit more to balance. But I don't have a ton of experience and certainly not AI experience so I haven't tackled these issues myself and probably won't have the time to ever get around to making a mod.

 

[EdCase]

Ahhh! How cynical we become. See what years of beta,bug ridden game releases does ?

Never mind. I hope for goodness and plan to not uninstall IV anytime soon.

In saying that sign me up for the collectors edition now.(Been a sucker for Civ since original, which I bought for ...hmm Amiga(ECS and AGA). Dos and Windows and CivNet and...well you get the picture....)

 

[kiwitt]

I am worried about the Civ 5 ...

The TOTALWAR series went bad after Medieval. The next versions Rome, Medieval 2, and even Empire were dumbed down.

 

[Sherlock]

'Cash cow'.

Milk it.

 

[Daedal]

Once, just once, I tried to play Civ on the SNES. I'm convinced that no real TBS and certainly no real Civ game will ever be possible on a console. As for the Facebook version, that's probably going to look a lot like Farmville or Mafia Wars. "Your friend wants you to join him in axe rushing the Mongols. Do you accept?" "Your friend just discovered a source of pigs and is now giving them away. Click here for your free pig!" Yeah... not the same.

 

[EdCase]

I am worried about the Civ 5 ...

The TOTALWAR series went bad after Medieval. The next versions Rome, Medieval 2, and even Empire were dumbed down.

There are those who will tell you Civ peaked at 2, others at 3, yet more at 4.
The Total War series went for "flashy" over guts.
I think we can agree that Civ has never been guilty of going for looks over game......

And..............if 5 does follow that route..... well 4,3,2,1 will not have magically disappeared from the face of the Earth.

 

[Cashew]

The worst that can happen is that Civ5 sucks. It'll be disappointing, but it's not like they can disable my Civ4. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain by them releasing a sequel.

That's not entirely true. Look at stuff like Counter-Strike Source and Unreal Tournament 3. They were worse than their predecessors but they still took away a good amount of the users from the previous version by virtue of being the newer shinier model.

Civ 5 will definitely be new and shinier than Civ 4, and what remains of the online community for Civ 4 might get a nail put in its coffin if Civ 5 comes out.

 

[EdCase]

That's not entirely true. Look at stuff like Counter-Strike Source and Unreal Tournament 3. They were worse than their predecessors but they still took away a good amount of the users from the previous version by virtue of being the newer shinier model.

Civ 5 will definitely be new and shinier than Civ 4, and what remains of the online community for Civ 4 might get a nail put in its coffin if Civ 5 comes out.

Not really such a big deal for this franchise, as it has never really been multiplayer focused. Though your right about CS:S and UT3