Of course Haig, today stacks are dead and the game is better with it. But as I pointed out, "Those we're the days, my friend, I hope it never ends" The game wen't forward with religions and stuff, played civ4 for 2000 hrs or more, I'm up to 1300 hrs on civ5, so I do still like it. At least the first 150 turns, then it get's so dull, I sometimes wish there was stacks of doom. I'm afraid to think how much I played Civ3, maybe 5000 hrs or maybe even more with SG's and GOTM. Way too much, I could've made me a new career and made more money for the family. But I don't care, I play games before going fishing or camping, the wife is the same, so I'm happy. Can't agree/disagree on the abilities, in my opinion it's the same, but called differently and are still hidden in the AI's data. Not exactly like that, but very similar. If you want to play some guy with a fashion for food or "hammers", it's not far from the older games. Just pick your civ and play it that way. And new polls, there are many new members coming on here every week and I'm sure noone twist your arm to vote. That is your own choice.