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Is Donald Trump Done for?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Archbob, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. mitsho

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    If only 4 out of 100 Trump voters who thought in 2016 "I can vote for him, he will get more presidential" resign from voting for him in 2020, Trumps already done. The democratic base will turn out in record numbers and so on and so on.

    So the primaries are crucially important for the future outlook of the Democratic party, more so than the election themselves. And for progressives, it's probably the only shot they'll ever get to get someone progressive into the White House (because enough moderates will vote for them anyways). Which explains the visceral reactions against Biden, I think.
     
  2. Zardnaar

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    40 000 people in 3 states change their mind Trump's done. His 80% approval ratings with Republicans don't look that good. He needs 100%+low Democratic turnout.

    This is the best chance a progressive had at getting in if 2018 mid terms are repeated in 2020. Problem then is 2024.

    Winning the presidency and passing laws are two different things though.

    The progressives underperformed in the 2018 midterms, they make a lot of noise though. It was the centrists/moderates in Trump suburbs that basically won.

    Pelosi knows this, hence AOC and her 3 friends got sidelined before Trump fired off his tweets.
     
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  3. mitsho

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    Yes exactly, the interesting fight is intra-democratic now. Who'll win this? The democratic party members/symphatisants really seem to go more radical left, while I'm not sure about the democratic voters doing the same.

    I can't really make predictions for 2024 though, too many variables at hand. It's an important point though.
     
  4. Zardnaar

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    I was thinking a populist might defeat Trump, over promise and under deliver and get turfed out in 2024.

    Another possibility is they win but it's vicious and they piss off the centrists who vote against a green new deal or whatever because they are in red States and voting extreme left gets them dumped.

    It's not like they gave to worry about a primary challenge from the left in a red state.
     
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  5. Kyriakos

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    Not if the candidate is just not popular, as in 2016.
    Besides, the dynamics will be different if there is a war at the time. The US hasn't gone to war for 3 years in a row. Must be some kind of record for them, at least after Carter.
     
  6. rah

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    OPRAH
     
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  7. Kyriakos

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    Hasn't it been established that reality tv stars are not presidential material?
     
  8. Zardnaar

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    Days racist and sexist, Oprah best president!!!!!

    Yeah tv stars maybe not so great.
     
  9. rah

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    She would probably not be a great president but she would kick his butt and the bar has been set so low by him, that it wouldn't be that hard to exceed it.
     
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  10. Zardnaar

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    True that.

    I think people gave Trump the benefit of the doubt in 2016, see what happens next year.

    Trump was crude and crass in the campaign trail but he hit points the Democrats couldnt.

    I recall him promising better, cheaper healthcare. Oxymoron but people believed it.

    If it plays out how I suspect Trump will be the best thing to happen to the Dems since FDR.
     
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    So the US Democratic party seem set to select a candidate on the assumption that
    they will be facing the discredited Donald Trump seeking re-election as POTUS.

    There is a rather big flaw in that logic.
     
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    You don't think Mr Ego will run?
     
  14. Kyriakos

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    Maybe Pence should run instead. Not sure if the alt-right will support him as much (?), but maybe he will make up for any loss there by more support by the church-right and the establishment.
    I wonder what will happen to Trump after he loses the spotlight due to no longer being potus.
     
  15. rah

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    Trump lose the spotlight. You're kidding right?
     
  16. Kyriakos

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    Well not as many people will bother reporting on his tweets and he won't be on state visits to foreign countries.
     
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    He'll make up for it with just more outrageous tweets by him. The media will continue to report on it well after he leaves office.
     
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    Trump was asked about Epstein and he said they had a falling out a long time ago and hadn't spoken in ~15 years

    MSNBC host immediately claims Trump said he was 'never' a fan and proceeds to show video from the 90s of Trump and Epstein at a party

    gee, why do they call us fake news?
     
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    Which doesn't change the fact that Trump was his good bud during their hunting seasons.
    But yeah ****** reporting.
     

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