"You've got to go after their families"
Is Donald Trump Done for?
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Cloud_Strife
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Republican's don't seem to mind going after other people, be it legislatively, socially, politically, spiritually, religiously, economically, personally etc
Turn about is fair play, people should be shamed, nothing else will change their behaviour, no amount of pandering to them in an attempt to lure them to the "other side" will seriously make them change.
If you're still an ardent Republican in 2020 tyool you have drank the kool-aid.
Turn about is fair play, people should be shamed, nothing else will change their behaviour, no amount of pandering to them in an attempt to lure them to the "other side" will seriously make them change.
If you're still an ardent Republican in 2020 tyool you have drank the kool-aid.
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I'm not a republican, like many other Burnie fans in 2016 who realised the establishment were never going to let an outsider in the game I payed attenion to the only outsider that promised to shake the system up that was running... I have not been disapointed
Now the Republicans have to keep a working class base and wall mart customers very happy as well as many indepentants voters
I call that Karma
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I'm not a republican, like many other Burnie fans in 2016 who realised the establishment were never going to let an outsider in the game I payed attenion to the only outsider that promised to shake the system up that was running... I have not been disapointed
Now the Republicans have to keep a working class base and wall mart customers very happy as well as many indepentants voters
I call that Karma
[/QUOTE]So because you're a Bernie fan you voted for somebody whose only policy successes have been tax cuts for the rich and corporations and making healthcare more inaccessible?
Not to 'no true Scotsman', but anyone who was a fan of Bernie would be 100% behind his efforts to undo Citizens United and the influence of PACs in politics. Trump has had zero input on that front, and it's probably one of the greatest longterm threats to the American Republic.
Cloud_Strife
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I'm not a republican, like many other Burnie fans in 2016 who realised the establishment were never going to let an outsider in the game I payed attenion to the only outsider that promised to shake the system up that was running... I have not been disapointed
Now the Republicans have to keep a working class base and wall mart customers very happy as well as many indepentants voters
I call that Karma
Some less charitable people might call this intensely optimistic bordering on potentially delusional when it comes to the GOP not automatically genuflecting towards the wealthy.
I'm just pointing that fact out.
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Like many other Burnie fans in 2016 upon
As a socialist no one was more surprised than me that it was the Republicans that had the long awaited politician that was going to tackle the corrupt estabishment
No i did not vote for Trump as people here like to point out but do pay attention
1) to the many jobs created for people
2) the greater gain in blue collar wage increases compared to white collar jobs
3)the prison reforms
4)the renegotiated China and NAFTA trade deals in favour of working class Americans
5) the investment in oppuortunity zones for disadvantaged inner city people
''AND THE BEST IS YET TO COME''
I'm not a republican, like many other Burnie fans in 2016 who realised the establishment were never going to let an outsider in the game I payed attenion to the only outsider that promised to shake the system up that was running... I have not been disapointed
Now the Republicans have to keep a working class base and wall mart customers very happy as well as many indepentants voters
I call that Karma
So because you're a Bernie fan you voted for somebody whose only policy successes have been tax cuts for the rich and corporations and making healthcare more inaccessible?
As a socialist no one was more surprised than me that it was the Republicans that had the long awaited politician that was going to tackle the corrupt estabishment
No i did not vote for Trump as people here like to point out but do pay attention
1) to the many jobs created for people
2) the greater gain in blue collar wage increases compared to white collar jobs
3)the prison reforms
4)the renegotiated China and NAFTA trade deals in favour of working class Americans
5) the investment in oppuortunity zones for disadvantaged inner city people
''AND THE BEST IS YET TO COME''
EnglishEdward
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I am coming to the overall conclusion that the failed impeachment attempt has merely
reinforced the Donald's prospects of re-election, and obliterated Joe Biden's chances.
Something about the Democrats shooting themselves in the foot again.
And by being so foolish as to impeach the Donald on something that, even if he was found culpable of,
was neither obviously treason nor a high crime, they have discredited the impeachment process.
That may prove very disadvantageous to the USA, particularly if the Donald gets re-elected,
and emboldened by acquital and re-election; goes on to commit unambiguous high crimes.
reinforced the Donald's prospects of re-election, and obliterated Joe Biden's chances.
Something about the Democrats shooting themselves in the foot again.
And by being so foolish as to impeach the Donald on something that, even if he was found culpable of,
was neither obviously treason nor a high crime, they have discredited the impeachment process.
That may prove very disadvantageous to the USA, particularly if the Donald gets re-elected,
and emboldened by acquital and re-election; goes on to commit unambiguous high crimes.
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It's hard to figure out the search terms required to see whether you've been complaining about the lack of action of PACs.
The only anti-PAC statement I can find from Trump is his (unsourced) claim that Cruz was coordinating with his PAC, and thus Trump's disparaging of Cruz's wife (on her appearance) was warranted.
... so the Bernie-turned-Trump crowd certainly didn't bring one of Bernie's most important planks along with them.
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but they did...are you perhaps talking about draining the swamp of its corruption
you should pay attention to what 2 Senate coommittees are now doing
the future of your country depends on it... maybe mine too
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I'm talking about eliminating PACs. What are the Senate committees you're talking about? It would be a useful name-drop to allow the conversation to move forwards more quickly.
Upthread, you told me to search your old posts about PACs. Which ones are you referring to?
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The americans are very lucky that Trump is an old style liberal who just also happens to be extremely narcissistic: he wouldn't overthrow the republic even if he could, he's just not the type. But he'll keep appointing nasty people in the court system just because that's the price to pay some of his supporters.
If he does get a second term he may also go for some sweet revenge on his political enemies involved in the several phony foreign policy scandals against him. Lots of crimes they can be prosecuted for. But he'd need a legislative majority backing him to prevent counterattacks. Unlikely to happen.
This is more and more like Reagan.
And it's still not employees and they are still public servants. SCOTUS is not elected but appointed and is still theoretically supposed to follow rules and standards and the public interest.
He can overthrow the republic and he is doing it.
Lexicus
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He's just a step on a long road. A bigger step than most.
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After the impeachment failed, he didn't waste any time staging a small Friday Night Massacre. The fundamental problem with prosecuting corrupt officials and lawyers, though, is that no one knows the law better than they do, and the ones acting in official capacities have already arranged regulations and guidelines under their control to make themselves legally unassailable. Lawful Evil is the most badass alignment, no question about it.
Congress passes laws in the US, but the executive branch manages an enormous cloud of regulations through the cabinet. Just for example, in preparation for impeachment, the requirements for 'whistleblower protections' were modified to accommodate second-hand witnesses. The sympathetic side of the press was then utilized to spread uncited statements that nothing had actually been changed.
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Mean while Cpt. Dipshirt is running a pay to play extortion scheme just down the road from the White House. But he is getting rid of corruption! /smh
I get not liking democrats, but idolizing these fools is insane.
mitsho
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I wonder if Trump would really have been done much sooner, would he present himself like he truly looks. I do believe this...
gets closer to his mind than he admits to. It's an interesting scandal (see vox on it), but in the end it empty personification. And for how we would actually look, reddit comes to the rescue.
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gets closer to his mind than he admits to. It's an interesting scandal (see vox on it), but in the end it empty personification. And for how we would actually look, reddit comes to the rescue.
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The slow motion coup rolls on. We're so polarized that actions to halt it energize the opposition which is a sickness in and of itself.
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