Is Elon Musk a fraud?

Is Elon Musk a fraud?

  • Yes, he is a fraud

    Votes: 46 69.7%
  • No, he isn't a fraud

    Votes: 20 30.3%

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Mental rape to go along with the old tried and true?
Well, among other things. But that's just scratching the surface. Depending on how deep the integration goes and what direction it takes we might be talking about anything from stealing or even implanting fake memories, causing mental or physical illness or even zombification and mind control. It gets me giddy just thinking about it.
 
That's not what a neural network is. What you are describing is a brain machine interface. But we do agree that those are inevitable. I just can't wait to see all the weird and wonderful way they can be hacked.
Right I guess brain to brain or brain to machine interfacing comes afterwards but it appears it's already here (I guess both are evolving)

Well, among other things. But that's just scratching the surface. Depending on how deep the integration goes and what direction it takes we might be talking about anything from stealing or even implanting fake memories, causing mental or physical illness or even zombification and mind control. It gets me giddy just thinking about it.
I'm guessing you choose super villain in the other thread
 
I'm guessing you choose super villain in the other thread
I am a software developer. And the human brain is the most intricate and complex piece of processing hardware that exists. The thought of being able to play with it naturally excites me.
 
How far will we be allowed to push our limit?
 
How far will we be allowed to push our limit?
It will be a difficult one to legislate because people will travel.
 
So the cybertruck seems to have already failed - including having to recall all cars because acceleration can be locked in...


Another island in this Odyssey of fraud.
 
There is a gruesome effect of the Cybertruck trunk:


While a lot of videos have been made on this, using carrots etc, it should be merely out of luck if indeed no one has been maimed by it.
Engineers would have told Musk about this - well, engineers would have told him also about how the shape and material of the truck will lead to deaths on the road too. Musk couldn't care, it's all about making sure the truck looked as good crap as possible :)
 
When the cybertruck was revealed I fell in love with it's external cyberpunk design but the interior's suck, like all other Teslas. The interior's of the cybertruck is a sin to the premise of cyberpunk, I want to see neon lit gauges and switches, not a freaking bland tablet screen!?

Anyway this happened:

Des activistes s’en prennent au Tesla Cybertruck pendant sa tournée européenne​

En pleine tournée européenne, le Tesla Cybertruck a été aspergé de peinture par des activistes à Hambourg. Le pick-up électrique est critiqué pour sa taille et son poids hors-normes.

Depuis sa présentation en 2019, le Cybertruck n’a jamais fait l’unanimité. C’est le moins que l’on puisse dire. De nombreux internautes s’en sont d’abord pris à son design futuriste. Mais ce n’est pas le seul élément qui dérange avec ce pick-up électrique. Son existence même est remise en cause par certains. Bien qu’électrique, et donc plus propre que la plupart des voitures en circulation aujourd’hui, les défenseurs de l’environnement estiment qu’un véhicule de cette taille et de ce poids n’a pas lieu d’exister.

Un Tesla Cybertruck aspergé de peinture à Hambourg​

Alors que le modèle parade à travers l’Europe depuis quelques mois, des activistes ont décidé de marquer le coup à Hambourg. Comme la Joconde, le plus célèbre tableau du monde, le Tesla Cybertruck a été aspergé de peinture en guise de protestation. Pour Hendrik Fauer, un ingénieur allemand qui a participé à cette action, « le Cybertruck pèse près de 3 tonnes et a donc une consommation d’énergie beaucoup trop élevée. C’est un gaspillage insensé que nous ne pouvons pas nous permettre en tant que société ».


📣 Cybertruck in Hamburg mit Farbe übergossen – Gepanzert in die Klimahölle
Seit dem 2. Mai tourt der SUV als Ausstellungsstück quer durch Deutschland und versinnbildlicht den Umgang der Superreichen mit der Erderhitzung: Gepanzert im Luxusfahrzeug ab in die Klimahölle.
1/7 pic.twitter.com/MaxRPI29Hg
— Letzte Generation (@AufstandLastGen) July 13, 2024

Les activistes dénoncent également les problèmes de sécurité liés à l’engin : « ce modèle est une catastrophe en termes de sécurité », explique-t-il. Selon lui, le pick-up américain « illustre parfaitement les conséquences de la politique menée au cours des dernières décennies : quelques personnes riches conduisent, bien blindées, vers la catastrophe, et entraînent tout le monde avec elles ». Si le Tesla Cybertruck n’est pas commercialisé en Europe, c’est justement à cause des problèmes de sécurité qu’il pose et du danger qu’il représente pour les piétons.

Sur Twitter, les protagonistes ont également eu un petit mot pour Elon Musk et ses projets en Allemagne. « Pendant ce temps, le fondateur de Tesla, Elon Musk, met en danger la santé de milliers de personnes d’une autre manière à Grünheide. Sa Gigafactory située au milieu d’une zone de protection de l’eau doit encore être agrandie et sa production doublée », peut-on lire. Pour agrandir son usine, Tesla va raser 50 hectares de forêt. Cela ne contribue pas à améliorer l’image de marque de l’entreprise en Allemagne.

Also this, apparently the guy on that YT video is on to something:

Tesla Cybertruck’s Door Button Design Sends Man To Hospital For Stitches​


The Tesla Cybertruck has received a lot of flack from people for its alleged safety dangers. Most of these folks seem upset at how boxy it is without realizing that basically every modern SUV and truck is similarly sized and dangerous.


On the other hand, some rightly point out that the body panels and design can be unforgiving in other situations. One owner found that out the hard way when their father-in-law went to the ER after simply trying to get into the truck.

Read: Tesla Cybertruck Turns Turtle, Revealing Chink In Its Badass Armor

The owner in question says that he had to show his father-in-law how to open the door which makes sense. Unlike a door with handles, this truck has buttons that pop the doors open. It’s not the first car like this and it won’t be the last. What makes it unique though is the placement of that button.

It just so happens to sit between the front and rear doors. So when one person is about to close the rear door and another is hunting for the button to pop the front door, bad things can happen. In fact, that’s exactly what happened in the case of Cybertruck Owners Club member SpykeDaddy.
“It was a traumatic experience for us all,” he wrote in a forum post. “We are fortunate that my father-in-law “only” received seven stitches and a splint in the emergency room. The fact that the pinch point was on the top joint of his index finger was lucky. This was a very serious laceration. After looking at the pinch point on the truck last night, I was shocked he did not lose the tip of his finger, or break it.”

That’s pretty serious talk from someone who kicked off the post with “I absolutely love the truck and have really put it through its’ paces.”

Clearly, they hope that other CT owners will recognize the potential safety risk and avoid it. That said, it’ll be interesting to see if Tesla relocates the door button or changes something else in future iterations.
 
I want to see neon lit gauges and switches, not a freaking bland tablet screen!?
While I am not sure about the neon lit gauges, I like a dark car to help visibility, I hate the idea of a tablet to control a car. I want to be able to control my car without taking my eyes off the road. I can do that with big physical switches that I can manipulate with touch alone.

In this day an age when using a phone in the car is illegal, why do we make cars that work like a phone?
 
Since this was the first Musk thread I saw: Musk is moving the site formerly known as Twitter and Space X to Texas over a just signed California law banning teachers from outing LGBT students to their families.


 
Since this was the first Musk thread I saw: Musk is moving the site formerly known as Twitter and Space X to Texas over a just signed California law banning teachers from outing LGBT students to their families.


They've been planning this move for tax resaons for some time now. The transgender bill thing is just Musk trying to get a cheap pop from his fellow bigots.
 
why do we make cars that work like a phone?
They forgot how to build anything else and stopped listening to the old geezers(both usages, why not?) who do.

Also, blame Blade Runner for making blue lights on consoles look futuristic. It's moronic. There's good reason the military always uses ambers, reds, and oranges.
 
What reason is that, FB?
 
I was sleepy, thought I followed up.

Hard blue night blinds you more than soft orange. Which seems a principle function of a dash not to do.

Buttons on glass that move or menu change is every bit as bad. You have to look at the screen to check the mode. Once you know where physical buttons and dials are, you don't. Again, principle function.
 
Ah, yes. Blue light is more energetic than red or yellow light and travels further. Blue/green light is necessary for underwater lasers, as ocean water absorbs most other EM frequencies.
 
Is Elon Musk a firestarter?

Race riots put Britain on collision course with Elon Musk​

LONDON — Britain’s in the grip of its worst race riots in decades. And Elon Musk just can't help himself.
The billionaire X owner sparked fury in the British government this weekend after he responded to incendiary footage of the far-right disorder that's sweeping the country by saying "civil war is inevitable."
The post on X was roundly condemned by U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer's office, which said there was “no justification” for Musk’s comments.
But Musk doubled, then tripled down on Monday night. Responding to a statement from Starmer vowing his government would “not tolerate attacks on mosques or on Muslim communities,” the X boss effectively accused the British prime minister of wearing blinkers. “Shouldn’t you be concerned about attacks on all communities?” Policing of the unrest "does seem one-sided," he offered in a third post.
Starmer's top interior minister, Yvette Cooper, meanwhile has a litany of complaints over the way social media giants like X are policing incitement and disinformation on their platforms.
“There are some things which are clearly already criminal, where we'll need police intervention and action to pursue those," Cooper told the BBC Monday. "There are other areas where the social media companies do have clear requirements at the moment to remove criminal material, and should be doing so, but sometimes take too long to do so.
"There are other areas where they have made commitments around their terms and conditions that are supposed to be enforced but are not being done so."
Cooper's vowed to take up the issue with tech giants this week.
Yet, despite plenty of hand-wringing over the proliferation of far-right messaging, Britain's toolbox for forcing the hands of social media companies seems limited.
This time, the riots — which have seen mosques attacked and accommodation for asylum seekers targeted — were inextricably linked to online communications. Fake news channels on X helped to disseminate false information about the killing of three children in Southport last week.
Right-wing influencers with huge reach, such as English Defense League founder Tommy Robinson and actor-turned-anti-woke activist Laurence Fox, have punted messages at their thousands of followers on social media. (Fox approvingly shared Musk's attack on Starmer Monday night.)
WhatsApp and Telegram have been used to organize gatherings at short notice, while flyers organizing specific protests have been spread on Facebook. TikTok has been abuzz with videos of the violence.
But X in particular has proven a particular hotbed of far-right chatter. Musk's direct intervention aside, the platform has also reinstated Robinson's account. He is currently banned on Instagram and Facebook.
In a statement Monday, Britain’s Tech Secretary Peter Kyle said it is “undeniable” that social media has provided a platform for the rioters.
“We have been clear with these companies they also have a responsibility not to peddle the harm of those who seek to damage and divide our society, and we are working closely with them to ensure they meet that responsibility,” he added.

'No need to wait'​

So, beyond beefing with Musk, what can Britain’s government actually do? The administration has a big legislative stick to use — but it's simply not ready yet.
Under Britain’s Online Safety Act, years in the making, platforms will have a duty to “take robust action” against illegal content. That includes content that incites violence or which is related to “racially or religiously aggravated public order offenses.”
Platforms are meant to prevent illegal content appearing on the platforms in the first place — and to act quickly to remove it if it does appear.
Failing to meet these obligations could see social media firms face fines of up to £18 million — or 10 percent of their worldwide revenue, whichever is greater — by media regulator Ofcom.
But crucially, the act's provisions on illegal content only come into effect around the end of 2024. And Britain’s existing laws on inciting violence stem from its 1986 public order act, which predates social media by decades — and so require police to comb platforms for potential breaches.
For now, British authorities can only implore tech companies to do the right thing and stringently enforce their own policies, many of which claim to ban the kind of content that has been openly rife online in recent days.
“There’s no need for online services to wait for the new laws to come into force before they make their sites and apps safer for users,” said a spokesperson for Britain's tech regulator, Ofcom.
“Our role will be to make sure that regulated services take appropriate steps to protect their users,” they added. “It will not involve us making decisions about individual posts or accounts.”
Sunder Katwala, director of the think tank British Future, told POLITICO that “will and capacity” are needed by social media platforms to remove offensive or dangerous content, “and what you've got at the moment is less will and less capacity than you used to have, certainly in the case of X — and on Facebook and Tiktok.” X, Meta, TikTok, and Telegram were approached for comment.
He added that pressure from the top could be key to forcing change, since “politicians have actually got something very important on the regulators — which is that they've got a forum to which you can summon people.”
Sara Khan, who served as former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s adviser on social cohesion, has accused ministers of failing to heed her 2021 report co-authored with Metropolitan Police chief Mark Rowley, which warned that certain prevalent forms of hateful extremism are not captured by existing legislation.
“Our rules have failed to evolve with this growing extremist threat, there are gaps in our legislation that is allowing them to, in effect, operate with impunity," Khan told the Guardian this week.
Over in the EU, the bloc's equivalent of the Online Safety Act — the Digital Services Act — is already in force and X is facing a probe by the European Commission over the spread of toxic content on the platform.
In France, President Emmanuel Macron even floated the idea of cutting access to social media platforms altogether because of the role he said they played in exacerbating riots in the country last summer. Britain seems unlikely to go quite that far.
Action by social media giants ultimately depends on the credible threat of enforcing regulation, according to Katwala — something he believes has been sorely lacking so far. "If tech companies don’t comply when the time comes, we’ll have a broad range of enforcement powers at our disposal," said the Ofcom spokesperson.
In the meantime, social media could have upsides in catching those breaking the law. Nazir Afzal, who was chief crown prosecutor in the north west of England at the time of 2011 disorder, pointed out that videos shared online would make it far easier to identify perpetrators than it was 13 years ago, when the main resource available was CCTV.
But, as the sparring with Musk continues, Britain's government remains to be convinced. “Some of this is about criminal behavior of individuals, and some of this is about the responsibility of the social media companies,” said Cooper, the home secretary. “We need to pursue both, because we obviously cannot carry on like this.”
 
I don't think so. A loose cannon maybe, but a fire starter, no.

Overly melodramatic assessments such as his certainly don't help.

But thing is the UK government will blame everyone else rather than admit to the possibility of its own shortcomings.
 
Ignoring the impact that the online world has on the real world is definitely a good way of missing the forest for the trees.
 
I was trying to be humorous as I love that Prodigy's great hit.
 
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