Is it common for the AI to be so generous ?

[MasrTheEgyptian]

In my current game as Egypt I have cyrus as a friend with a net + 9 green points and he is way technologically advanced than me .In fact he is way advanced in everything and I have just a tiny civilization
but every now and then he offers a tech as a gift I have never had this before
but before he started doing this I offered him a resource as a gift and he is still getting it

so did u have a situation in which the AI was so generous ?

 

[Sarek]

It does happen if you are significantly behind in tech and have a friend.
I suggest it's not Cyrus I would be wondering about...but any "enemies" you develop that will eventually come storming across your borders with advanced tech military and wipe you out because you're that far behind!

 

[KMadCandy]

in culture games where i turn off tech after PP or nationalism (whichever i pick to take from lib that day), i often have them come by with handouts. gotten rifling at least twice, of course by that time they were all running around with SAMs, and my best units in my teensy army were longbows. hatty and gus tend to give me a ton, not sure if that's their personality or just that in those games i had them at friendly. i'd guess the first, since in those games i'm careful to keep as many as i can at friendly ... i think, but do not know for sure, that longbows don't do so hot vs. SAMs and tanks.

my very first deity game, i beelined to alphabet to trade with the smart folks. i got some trades, but mansa wouldn't trade bronzeworking for anything, he was being totally stubborn. on the very next turn he came by as said "perhaps this would be of use to you" and gave it to me free . end result: i had expected to be way behind them in everything, but the fact that i was far enough behind that early scared me. i quit that game and stayed away from deity for months afterwards *giggle*.

 

[Arlborn]

in culture games where i turn off tech after PP or nationalism (whichever i pick to take from lib that day), i often have them come by with handouts. gotten rifling at least twice, of course by that time they were all running around with SAMs, and my best units in my teensy army were longbows. hatty and gus tend to give me a ton, not sure if that's their personality or just that in those games i had them at friendly. i'd guess the first, since in those games i'm careful to keep as many as i can at friendly ... i think, but do not know for sure, that longbows don't do so hot vs. SAMs and tanks.

my very first deity game, i beelined to alphabet to trade with the smart folks. i got some trades, but mansa wouldn't trade bronzeworking for anything, he was being totally stubborn. on the very next turn he came by as said "perhaps this would be of use to you" and gave it to me free . end result: i had expected to be way behind them in everything, but the fact that i was far enough behind that early scared me. i quit that game and stayed away from deity for months afterwards *giggle*.

DEITY??!!?!? YOU DO NOT DESERVE THE TITLE OF NOOB! I CAST YOU AWAY FROM THIS FACTION! BE GONE HERETIC!!!!!

 

[KMadCandy]

pshaw. i didn't say i'd ever won deity now did i?

and i only ever try it on OCC. one of their HUGE advantages is starting with a settler. i don't have to ever worry about the landgrab, so i don't have to fight them for city spots early or ever. i don't even have to bother with dot maps. that makes it easier in a sense, honest.

the very thought of fighting them, forget it. i play those games aiming for diplomatic victory, while voting for my opponent since i have approximately 0 votes of my own. if somebody did declare war on me, i'd quit faster than you can say "one more turn".

but the primary argument against your casting out is: my title is permanoob. ain't nothing that can cast out what it permanent .

 

[Bad Brett]

Perhaps of all of you know this, but if someone is friendly towards you, it's often easier to demand that someone assist you in a war than try to bribe him.

 

[Arlborn]

pshaw. i didn't say i'd ever won deity now did i?

and i only ever try it on OCC. one of their HUGE advantages is starting with a settler. i don't have to ever worry about the landgrab, so i don't have to fight them for city spots early or ever. i don't even have to bother with dot maps. that makes it easier in a sense, honest.

the very thought of fighting them, forget it. i play those games aiming for diplomatic victory, while voting for my opponent since i have approximately 0 votes of my own. if somebody did declare war on me, i'd quit faster than you can say "one more turn".

but the primary argument against your casting out is: my title is permanoob. ain't nothing that can cast out what it permanent .

No matter! I never even tried Deity! No noob shall pass from prince - and that only if he is lucky!

I talked with the freeitemnoob and plbrswenoob, and they agreed to give you one more chance! But just this once! No tries in deity!!!!

 

[Gaius Octavius]

Sometimes the AI will give you techs if you are very far behind, as other posters have said. However, my experience has been that the AI is only "commonly generous" when they are forced to be at the end of a gun (or spear, or sword, or arrow)...

 

[weasel77066]

Note (not really my Bday today)

Catherine (and she was the only one ever to do it) actually called me up once and gave me a good tech for free. Said something along the lines of -here, looks like you could use this- She did this all on her own. I dont remember which one it was, but it was around industrial age.

Ive found that if there is a wonder involved, civs wont give the tech up untill after the wonder has been built. They won't spoil their chance of getting it, but after the wonder is resolved, the cost for the tech seems to lower.

Also when a civ is really friendly with you. Sometimes they will NOT trade for the tech, but will be happy to give it to you for free. Thats kind of weird, and it applies to any trade, not just tech.

I think when the AI considers a trade, it uses a formula, but uses a different line for gifting/relations...

 

[Blaarg]

If you need some quick cash, ask all your friendly or pleased leaders for thier treasury money.

You'll be suprised how much you can make this way.

They won't ussually give you a tech in this manor, but they will sometimes. It doesn't hurt to ask if they are about cautious.

 

[MasrTheEgyptian]

any way I have suffered a humilating loss that game when peter declared war on my
even cyrus didn't help me then

 

[Öjevind Lång]

in culture games where i turn off tech after PP or nationalism (whichever i pick to take from lib that day), i often have them come by with handouts. gotten rifling at least twice, of course by that time they were all running around with SAMs, and my best units in my teensy army were longbows. hatty and gus tend to give me a ton, not sure if that's their personality or just that in those games i had them at friendly. i'd guess the first, since in those games i'm careful to keep as many as i can at friendly ... i think, but do not know for sure, that longbows don't do so hot vs. SAMs and tanks.

I've had Hammurabi and Elizabeth give me technologies when I asked them and was behind him in research, but I have never been offered anything voluntarily - except by Hatty when I was in a permanent alliance with her and my people needed a more varied diet and she turned up and gifted me fish with that little nose-touching thing she does. You probably get more spontaneous help because you are a nicer person than I am... By the way, what do you think of Hammurabi? I think he's a really decent neighbour, almost better than Hattie or Cyrus, and that's saying a lot. If you behave decently to him, he simply won't attack you, no matter how weak you are. At least that's my experience. And even given other circumstances in games where I was doing better, he didn't even send spies into my territory, the way everybody else on my continent did, though everybody shared my religion. Except Gilgamesh, who was rightly shunned. I owned the Apostolic Palace but mostly did not control it. Even so, the vote to boycott old Gil always came up, and everybody always voted for it. Sometimes I was in charge of the AP; sometimes Hammurabi; sometimes Hannibal. It didn't matter; the boycott motion always turned up and everybody always voted for it. (Towards the end of the game, I started to feel sorry for Gil and acceded to his request for Open Borders, but then the AP aways stepped in and told me not to have anything to do with him.)

I've also had the AI do that against me, though. That wasn't quite as much fun.