Two major points here: A) North Korea: I simplified things a little, I know that. I do believe Clinton should have insured NK was not developing weapons in the meantime while the treaty was in effect...and, if he didn't, I would have hoped there would at least be UN weapons inspectors. That didn't happen, and now the situation is even worse. I believe Clinton handled this better than Bush, who has only antagonized and accelerated the program. You can at least agree Bush hasn't helped the situation, no? B) Vietnam: It's funny, but if you actually read accounts, the US pretty much won a draw in Vietnam. There was a cease-fire signed by the Americans and North Vietnamese with a North and South Vietnam existing, much like the Korean situation. Then, when the US left, the North Vietnamese invaded the South and won. The US didn't have the gut to go over there again, especially because of a certain scandal that was distracting them... (Nixon, Watergate) Has anyone read the agreements? One of the terms for the return of all the US prisoners of war was that the USS New Jersey (I think--it was an Iowa-class battleship) had to be moved because all it did was sit on the North Vietnamese coast and bombard them constantly. And every single attack by the North Vietnamese amounted to a dented door on the ship.