Russell Means is one Indian. He has one opinion. I spent 12 years working with tribes in NM. there is no consensus about what they want to be called: Native Americans, Indians, Pueblo People, tribal people or their particular tribe or pueblo. It seems to depend upon the circumstances or context of the conversation. Russell Means had his own agenda and way of doing things. Not every Indian feels the same.
I know there's no consensus, thats why I dont lecture people about it... unless someone lectures me. Traitor Fish said Indian rubs people the wrong way so I should call them Native Americans. I wanted TF to understand very clearly why I reject his advise. Russell Means doesn't speak for himself, he speaks for me and everyone else who cant deny his logic. Can you deny it? Explain why he's wrong. I'd be insulting him if I called him Native American, but Traitor Fish says I'm insulting him if I call him Indian instead. Quite a dilemma... I'm hoping TF will lead me to enlightenment.
No, Breitbart is, and that's where the crap you dump on the rug here comes from nine times out of ten. I go there frequently because they don't have a problem with me calling white supremacist lying scum exactly what they are, so I recognize the crap you bring when you bring it to your protected safe space to dump on the rug.
Now, go ahead and check in with Bannon and get another load.
If thats why you got banned, aren't you tempting fate? I dont think you're gonna be around long and your last departure made this place less fun. You hang out there, not me... I might have been there once because someone here linked to them - probably you. Didn't you start a thread about your trolling Breitbart?
Now thats ironic, I've never linked to Breitbart and you're a regular there. But I'm tempted to join, sounds like a fun forum if they unleash trolls. I dont belong to any political forums, just civ and sports and I'm too lazy and forgetful to change my name. Do they have a Berzerker? Btw, how did you refute the New England Genealogical Society analysis at Breitbart? Did you just call them names?
My sources were already posted in this thread, Thinkprogress and the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. The New England Genealogical Society (linked by Zkribbler?) is not Breitbart. If you've already read about Warren at Breitbart, did you ignore their sources too? Maybe you shouldn't be complaining about their credibility, sounds like their source is the same one my sources are using. Experts looked at her family records going back over 200 years and found no Indian ancestry.
Its still possible, Pocahontas lived much further back and many Cherokee claim descent. But the only thing that will save her on this one is actual documentation - people who say she doesn't need it are wrong, when you claim Indian ancestry and profit from it you had better be Indian. What do you think would happen to Warren if she was using tribal benefits? They'd laugh at Pocahontas and kick her butt out the door followed by a lawsuit.
Yes, there are aboriginal people who object to being referred to nowadays as "American" or "Canadian." There are a lot of them in Quebec who have said that if Quebec separates, they're not separating along with it.
Aboriginal... Harder to say than Indian but I'd bet it has the fewest objections of all the options, maybe. Course maybe the real aborigines wouldn't appreciate the demotion.
I mean, some came early and some came late. The Hopi were not exactly thrilled when the Navajo showed up.
Has anyone used the word "Injuns" in this thread? (Other than you, that is)
Of course, I was quoting Traitor Fish. Thats how we got on this debate, he said it was offensive to use the word Indian ("Injun" was his term).
When you do any amount of research, as Berzerker clearly has not, it's easy to see how the nomenclature can get fairly complicated fairly quickly.
Did you do any research on how Native American rubs people the wrong way before telling us to call them Native Americans? Watching you paint yourself into a corner with a smug political correctness is entertaining, please continue...
Sorry, Tim's rubbing off on me
Knowing how Russell Means feels about your 'nomenclature', would you call him a Native American anyway?