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Israel by Dumanios

Discussion in 'Civ4 - New Civilizations' started by Dumanios, Sep 30, 2011.

  1. Dumanios

    Dumanios MLG

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    Before anything else, I'll say this: Please keep all political discussion out of this thread. Go to Off-Topic for that.

    Israel, in my opinion, is one of the most culturally important civs in history, and will be one of the seven new real world civs in my upcoming mod. Flavour unit-wise, Israel is first the Kingdoms of Israel and Judea, then in the Medieval ages, they're the Kingdom of Jerusalem. In the late Renaissance, they're Ottoman occupied, and in the Industrial and Modern ages, they're the State of Israel(with an Arabic MG).


    Spoiler :
    Row 1: Settler, Worker, Scout, Explorer, Warrior
    Row 2: Maccabee, Axeman, Maceman, Spearman, Pikeman
    Row 3: Rifleman, Grenadier, Anti-Tank Infantry, Infantry, SAM Infantry
    Row 4: Mobile SAM, Marine, Paratrooper, Mech Infantry, Archer
    Row 4: Longbowman, Crossbowman, Chariot, Horseman, Knight
    Row 5: Cavalry, War Elephant, Tank, Modern Armour, Gunship
    Row 6: Cannon, Machine Gun, Artillery, Mobile Artillery, Submarine
    Row 7: Fighter, Jet Fighter, Bomber


    Modern Great General:

    Leaders:

    King David:

    King Solomon:

    David Ben-Gurion:

    The Israelite UB, The Merkhav Mugan:

    And their UU, the Maccabee:

    Credits:

    Spoiler :
    Maccabee: The Capo's Maccabee

    Axeman, Spearman, Chariot, Horse Archer, Archer: Bakuel's Ancient Hebrews

    Maceman: From Sword of Islam.

    Pikeman, Longbowman, Crossbowman: Danrell's Crusaders

    Grenadier, Cavalry: The Capo's Industrial Ottomans

    Infantry, SAM INfantry, Marine, Paratrooper: From Amra Advanced, originial source unknown.

    Mech Infantry: KrugerPritz's Nagmachon

    Knight: Castor Toy's Jerusalemite Knights

    Modern Armour: Sharick's Merkava

    Gunship, Artillery, Mobile Artillery, Mobile SAM, Modern Great General, Submarine, and Anti-Tank: Stolenray's Iran-Iraq War mod.

    Cannon: Bakuel's Grand Bombard

    Machine Gun: Coffee Junkie's Modern Middle Eastern units

    Jet Fighter: From Varietas Delactate, original source unknown.

    David Ben-Gurion: Ekmek's Ben-Gurion

    David: Ekmek's David

    Solomon: The Capo's Solomon

    Rifleman: Bakuel's Industrial Arabs

    Tank: American M4 Sherman from Snafusmith's Tank pack

    Fighter and Bomber: Realism Invictus


    Recover the Lost Ark here!

    Comments, Criticisms, Advice, Etc, accepted. Politics not accepted.
     
  2. Ekmek

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  3. AbsintheRed

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    That would be awesome :king:
     
  4. Dumanios

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    It'd be quite nice!
     
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  6. Midnight-Blue766

    Midnight-Blue766 The filidh that cam frae Skye

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    I don't like using these 'landmarks' as UBs. How about the Beth Din as an Israelite UB?
     
  7. Dumanios

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    @Farsight: Could you suggest some graphics for the Beth din? And Carthage does it too. :p
     
  8. Midnight-Blue766

    Midnight-Blue766 The filidh that cam frae Skye

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    I just use the Middle Eastern or Mesopotamian Courthouse designs from Cultural Citystyles.
     
  9. MrGoldfinger

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    Hello Friend,

    your download did not working...:(
    I hope you have got an alternativ link for us...
     
  10. Dumanios

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    New Version out, with working DL!

    Replaced the Axeman, Spearman, Chariot, and Horseman with Bakuel's excellent units.
    Changed the Ottoman Rifleman to a Palestinian Levy by Bakuel.
    Added improved graphics for the MG.
     
  11. zov

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    Yo Dumanios,
    since you used Bakuel's units, why not his Hebrew middleage pack?
    Quote from wiki :"The Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem was a Catholic kingdom established in the Levant in 1099 after the First Crusade."
    Crusading units should not represent Israel imho.
    Also , those Ottoman units , why using those?
    If Israel was occupied , doesn't mean Israelis were Turks.
    It is kind of making Afghanistan represented by modern navy seals.
     
  12. Dumanios

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    Feel free to make changes to the original mod. I know Bakuel's Medieval Israelites exist, but the historical procession is how practically all my civs go, and Israel had several choices: Any of the Arabic nations that occupied the Holy Land, the crusaders, or the a-historical Medieval Hebrews. I chose the Crusaders because it was both historical and not using the same Medieval units as someone else. As for the Ottoman units in the Industrial era, there really aren't any Bakuel-level Israeli units for that era. Sure, there are Zerver's unit, but it looks weird having Rifleman dressed like Maccabees.

    Short version: Feel free to make changes.
     
  13. zov

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    tnx for replying, I love finally seeing Sharik's merkava in actual mod;)
     
  14. Luigiii2

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    Sorry to be thick, but what do the cavalry look like? Do you use the same graphic as the cuirassier?
     
  15. Dumanios

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    The Cavalry is an Ottoman Cavalry, and is in the picture. The Cuirassier is the standard Cuirassier, to match the Musketman.
     
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  17. Dumanios

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    The Anti-Tank? I don't recall adding an Anti-Tank.
     
  18. stolenrays

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    Maybe it was another mod. Anyhow, my new IIW update has a new version of a Shayet-13 among most other unitclasses. He comes with a black bandana. All my israeli units have new buttons modeled after the ingame artwork.
     
  19. Dumanios

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    I see a Mobile SAM, an Artillery, a Mobile Artillery, a Submarine, and that Patrol Boat could work for a Stealth Destroyer.
     
  20. stolenrays

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    Machine Gun is new, also the scout plane (RF-4), and female israeli infantry was made specifically for me. There are some more too, take a look at the google docs spreadsheet link on the first page of my IIW thread.
     

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