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Israel invades Gaza

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Gogf, Jan 3, 2009.

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  1. hossam

    hossam Deity

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    arm both sides to the teeth and let them have at it until one side exterminates the other, remember: there can be only one.
     
  2. Loki130

    Loki130 I remember when...

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    And the solution would be..?
     
  3. hossam

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    waste of time, hasnt worked in the past. thats why my solution is the best.
     
  4. civaddict098

    civaddict098 Prince

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    Hossam, thank you so much for your insight.

    ICBM, there was no solution in your "solution"
     
  5. Verbose

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    I don't think the Israelis would go for that. They might lose after all.
     
  6. Shekwan

    Shekwan Kim Chi Quaffing Celt

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    What he said:

    Also I don't get how it's obvious that Israel isn't commiting mass murder here. What would you call blowing the crap out of a school killing 40 people?

    And don't start talking about human shields. If they really gave a damn about that school they could they have not sent infantry to it? No that would endanger Israeli soldiers. Solution - blow them all up and let God sort them out.
     
  7. SS-18 ICBM

    SS-18 ICBM Oscillator

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    Did you not read what I wrote? In other words, STOP FIGHTING and work out your grievances. It's that simple. As for whether it will happen, that's up to both sides.
     
  8. hossam

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    im glad i could help you better understand what is necessary to solve the problem:)
    i sense you're sarcasm, and i don't appreciate it.
     
  9. Loki130

    Loki130 I remember when...

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    I mean how would they divide things up and live after the cease-fire? just wait around until some israeli decides his palestinean neighbors lawn is holy ground decides to shoot the infidel for letting his dog crap on it? (or visa-versa)
     
  10. hossam

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    thats why my solution is best, you dont have to worry about stuff like that when only one side is left.
     
  11. civaddict098

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    ICBM, don't you realize its not that simple! Why would Israel stop fighting when they know that Hamas will continue to fire rockets and why would Hamas stop firing rockets when in their charter their stated goal is the destruction of Israel.
     
  12. SS-18 ICBM

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    Let them work it out. At best, we outsiders can make suggestions.
     
  13. Loki130

    Loki130 I remember when...

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    But if the Israelis kill the palestineans, all the arabs will be angry, and if the palestineans kill the israelis, the americans will be angry. So should we just call it a free-for-all and let everyone shoot each other until one guy and his ideology remains, then he turns schitzophrenic and decides shoots his alternate personality that he thinks is an infidel?
     
  14. ori

    ori Repair Guy Super Moderator

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    its not mass murder and the number of dead does not hint at mass murder either. IF and this is an unknown this was a deliberate attack on a civilian target and not on a military one then it would be an unjustifiable attack on civilians and if you want to call it this mass murder. However the situation being murky as it is: it is not easy to just take one incident and call this whole operation one of mass murder (especially if this was the goal the majority of dead would be civilians and the numbers much higher - its difficult in Gaza to kill as few people as the Israelis did with this amount of operations).
    As for Infantry: do you seriously think that a full blown incursion into the urban areas of Gaza would result in less civilian casualties? they'd have to fight there way there - so that would mean house to house combat with more - much more casualties on both sides but mostly civilians.
     
  15. SS-18 ICBM

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    It's not impossible to give up the goal of destroying Israel. That's a tall order, and there must be some reason they want to do it. But if you want a prolonged war of attrition, your choice.
     
  16. hossam

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    meh, we have to draw the line somewhere. i think mine is the best.
     
  17. IceBlaZe

    IceBlaZe Atheist Proselytizer

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    Easy for you to say.

    The soldiers are there in order to protect Israeli civilians, not Palestinian civilians.
    Of course they don't want to put Palestinian civilians in harms way (don't forget killing civilians is also counter-productive to Israel's intentions, as it narrows Israel's diplomatic maneuver space and brings the operation to a closer forced finale), but that doesn't mean sending out troops to suicide missions.
     
  18. civaddict098

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    exactly, and you give no reason.
     
  19. SS-18 ICBM

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    My best guess would be for a land to live on.
     
  20. Agent Cooper

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    True, but at some point the US administration has got to ask itself whether the Israeli invasion is truly in the interest of Israel (and the US) in the long run?

    When this is over I expect thousands to join Hamas, Al-Quada etc., and 1000 times that to symphathise with their cause. The hate in the region towards Israel and the US will just spiral upwards another notch. Didn't they learn something from the distasterous Israeli campaign in Lebanon in 2007?

    Sadly, I don't really see a peaceful solution to the mess anymore. It's been decades of hate from generation to generation - it's not going to vanish just because the politicians sign treaties etc.

    Sadly, I think we will see a terrorists organisation aquire nuclear/biological/chemical weapons at some point in the future and the no. 1 target will be Israel.
     
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