Israel needs to be "wiped of the map" - Ahmadinejad (Iran president)

How I love this kind of comments coming from presidents! :lol:

I wonder, does he hope to accomplish anything with such idiotic comments? He'll just get everyone to hate him.


I'm the president of Suriname and I say USA needs to be wiped off them map!! :king:
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Not true, the Supreme Leader is subordinate to the President who is the real executive power. The Supreme Leader is elected by the Council of Experts, who in turn are elected by universal suffrage and secret ballot.

I've actually read the below which describes the exact opposite. The point being that Ahmadinejad's quote (regardless of the meaning) is less relevant than the media would have us believe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1788542,00.html

His predecessor, Mohammad Khatami, was seen in the west as a moderate reformer, and during his eight years in office western politicians regularly lamented the fact that he was not Iran's top decision-maker. Ultimate power lay with the conservative unelected supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei. Yet now that Ahmadinejad is president, western hawks behave as though he is in charge, when in fact nothing has changed. Ahmadinejad is not the only important voice in Tehran. Indeed Khamenei was quick to try to adjust the misperceptions of Ahmadinejad's comments. A few days after the president made them, Khamenei said Iran "will not commit aggression against any nation".

The evidence suggests that a debate is going on in Tehran over policy towards the west which is no less fierce than the one in Washington. Since 2003 the Iranians have made several overtures to the Bush administration, some more explicit than others. Ahmadinejad's recent letter to Bush was a veiled invitation to dialogue. Iranians are also arguing over policy towards Israel.
 
Jesus wasn't Muslim. The Jesus of Islam is not the Jesus of the Bible. That Jerusalem is a holy Muslim city, is purely contrived.

Heresy,plain and simple. Anyone got a steak so we can burn him :)

Link and kindly not from a fundementalist clap trap web site for brainwashed drones, that calls all muslims evil and says allah is not God, something credible if you don't mind?
 
Heresy,plain and simple. Anyone got a steak so we can burn him :)

Link and kindly not from a fundementalist clap trap web site for brainwashed drones, that calls all muslims evil and says allah is not God, something credible if you don't mind?

You still haven't answered what Christians should believe. What you're saying is that Christians should admit they're wrong and say Muslims are right.

Christians believe Jesus is son of God and in the trinity. Muslims don't believe that. Big differences. It's not fundamentalist clap trap.

Say hi to your sheikh for me. :)
 
You still haven't answered what Christians should believe. What you're saying is that Christians should admit they're wrong and say Muslims are right.

Christians believe Jesus is son of God and in the trinity. Muslims don't believe that. Big differences. It's not fundamentalist clap trap.

Say hi to your sheikh for me. :)

More wood for the fire, you can believe what you like, doesn't make it any more true because a bunch of minority apostate faiths say it is. Now where are those links proving your assertions?

Essentially what about that makes Allah and God different gods?
 
More wood for the fire, you can believe what you like, doesn't make it any more true because a bunch of minority apostate faiths say it is. Now where are those links proving your assertions?

No I agree with you. There is only one God that's worshipped by Jews, Christians and Muslims but in different ways. What's next?

What's your point and what are you driving at?

You still haven't addressed the point that Christians believe Jesus is SON OF GOD and that Muslims don't. Are you saying that Christians are wrong and muslims are right?
 
No I agree with you. There is only one God that's worshipped by Jews, Christians and Muslims but in different ways. What's next?

What's your point and what are you driving at?

You still haven't addressed the point that Christians believe Jesus is SON OF GOD and that Muslims don't. Are you saying that Christians are wrong and muslims are right?

You mean you've changed your mind, this question was directed at Quazar you know, he believes that God and Allah are not the same, so if you don't there is no disagreement. Or more correctly he states that Jesus and Jesus are two different people which is even more ludicrous.
 
You mean you've changed your mind, this question was directed at Quazar you know, he believes that God and Allah are not the same, so if you don't there is no disagreement. Or more correctly he states that Jesus and Jesus are two different people which is even more ludicrous.

I'm changing my mind by viewing things from a different point of view. As someone who does not believe in any of the monotheistic religions. Let's say I'm an atheist who's read the Torah, Christian Bible and Koran. It's talking about the same God and that Jesus that's mentioned in Bible and Koran are the same people.

But that doesn't change the FACT that Islam says Christianity and everything Christians stand for are wrong.

Islam says that Jesus is NOT SON OF GOD. That he's merely a prophet. Right there and then, that pretty much nullifies most of the New Testament. By doing that, that pretty much tells Christians if you're going to continue believing in your religion, you can't accept Islam on any level. But Islam constantly tells Christianity that it's wrong and that Islam is right.

The God and Jesus that Christians have been worshipping is wrong or corrupted and that Islam is right.

So it looks like it's the same God and Jesus and I can agree it on a level but it still doesn't change anything. Why should Christians accept Islam?

Another thing.

Let's say I'm with a friend and we're outside a classroom. There's an apple sitting on a desk in the classroom.

I go in the room by myself to look at the apple and see a red apple. I come out of the room. Later my friend goes into the room and she comes out says she saw a green apple.

We have an argument. There's a fundamental agreement that there is an apple in the room. But we disagree about the colour.

On a level we can agree that we saw the same apple. But on a level we can't be so sure because the colour is different. What if between the time I left and she went in, some switched the apples? What if she's colourblind or I'm colourblind?
 
At least you acknoweldge the fact that it might be you who is colourblind :) As I said I don't have a problem with this view of yours, but I do with Quazars I think it's pointlessly divisive and should not be left unquestioned. But at the end of the day, if he wants to believe in fairie tales that's his look out.
 
On a level we can agree that we saw the same apple. But on a level we can't be so sure because the colour is different. What if between the time I left and she went in, some switched the apples? What if she's colourblind or I'm colourblind?

The real question is - "Who cares what colour the apple is?"

OR

"Who cares if the apple even exists?"
 
The real question is - "Who cares what colour the apple is?"

OR

"Who cares if the apple even exists?"

Last I heard it's pink and invisible. ;):)
 
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