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Israeli racism 'on the rise'...

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Che Guava, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. Che Guava

    Che Guava The Juicy Revolutionary

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    ...according to one Israeli Civil Rights group....


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    Ok, let's save outselves a couple pages of 'discussion' and and just say that we know that a popular opinion will be "IF THE PALLIES STOPPED FIRING ROCKETS AT THEM THEY WOULDN'T BE SO RACIST!". Not that it isn't valid, I just don't think it will lead a discussion anywhere and we don't need to hear it 20 times over in slightly different ways.

    And now that tha is out of the way:

    (1) Are there any posters from or with connections to Israel that want to comment on the validity of the study, and whether the attitudes presented here are typical of jewish citizens?

    (2) Do you think this represents a threat to Israel's democracy or civil rights in general?

    (3) If, as the study suggests, that more young israeli jews have negative views of arabs than thier parents, do you think that the worst is yet to come? If peace does not come in the is generation, will the next be even less likely to seek it?
     
  2. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    What about Arab Jews? Where do they stand and how are they viewed in Israeli society?
     
  3. HannibalBarka

    HannibalBarka We are Free

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    I'm not from Israel, but that kind of "opinion" is not surprising at all giving the continuous state of cold/hot war between Jewish Israeli and Christians-Muslims Palestinians, it's even worse because we're in a "very desperate" phase in a overall desperate situation. The same kind of poll done in the US about Japanese in WWII, in France about Germans in WWII, in Russia about Chechen today, in Serbia about Kosovans, etc would have given the same kind of figures. You just can't "love" some one you are at war with

    Yes, sure, but the war is the "true" reason, as long as the conflict is going on, there is no way to resolve this problem.

    I think it has more to do with the fact that the conflict is in a "desperate" phase than really about generation. If a sudden hope to achievce peace become forseeable, things will become much better
     
  4. useless

    useless Social Justice Rogue

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    why is everyone complaining? it wasn't so long ago we were all treating the jews like crap we cant expect them not to hate us.
     
  5. Merkinball

    Merkinball Deity

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    I wonder what the percentage of Pallies think that Israeli's deserve equal rights as them?

    When are we gonna get a news story about that?
     
  6. zxcvbnm

    zxcvbnm The Nobody

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    Weird, Jews have been persecuted for centuries so they certainly know what it feels like and they still have the guts to do this.
     
  7. Bill3000

    Bill3000 OOOH NOOOOOOO! Supporter

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    It's hardly surprising. Stuff like this happens where there's ethnic tensions...
     
  8. Che Guava

    Che Guava The Juicy Revolutionary

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    I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem like there is much of a distinction made between arab jews/christians/muslims, at least from what was stated in the article.

    As soon as I see one, I'll post it.

    Not surprising at all, but I'm more interested in what this means for the future of Israel...
     
  9. Little Raven

    Little Raven On Walkabout

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    I've read a few articles on this: Larry Derfner and company have noted this trend with some alarm. But it's worth noting that Larry Derfner represents the extreme liberal-pansy sector of the Israeli population. ;)

    Does this represent a threat to Israeli rights or democracy? Well, yes...but it much the same way that a faulty bilge pump represents a threat to a ship with a gaping hole in the side. Anyone who believes in government with the consent of the governed has to be wary of this sort of thing, but I don't think there's much anyone can do about such things unless some of the larger issues are addressed first.
     
  10. erez87

    erez87 Lord of Random

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    As an Israeli I can say that is not true. Racism in Israel is at all high for a long while now. As a left wing Israeli, and a Jew who turned atheist, and as someone who really doesn't mind anyone I can say most young Israelis dislike Arabs, and vice versa.

    Religious young men think their the forever enemy for them. (as long as there is war, but they also don't believe the war will end).

    Right winged ideals are spreading like wild fires here because of desperation, problem is that too many generations are growing on racist ideals.


    I'm sad to also note that that is the fact on both sides. Probably almost to the same extent. (Humans are humans after all). And if you ask me personally, I think this hatred is growing all over the world in nearly everyone, dunno why.
     

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