Italian civilization for Varietas Delectat

10lire · Apr 9, 2010

[BtS] Italian civilization for Varietas Delectat

UPDATED TO VERSION 3.0b - 2011/03/17

DOWNLOAD: http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=14627

Starting Techs: Mysticism and Agriculture
Unique Unit: Bersagliere (Infantry): 2
Unique Building: Art Workshop (Forge): +25% , can turn 1 Citizen into Artist; +1 from Marble, Dye and Silver (over the Forge bonuses).
Leaders:
- Lorenzo the Magnificent (Creative, Philosophical),
- Cavour (Organized, Industrious),
- Mussolini (Charismatic, Expansive).
Fully translated in english and german (but english text needs check ).
Hungarian tags included (with english text).

Leaderheads:

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Art Workshop:

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Foot units:

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Spies and Modern General:

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Mounted units:

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Siege units:

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Mechanized units:

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Fighters and Tactical air units:

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Bombers and Helicopters:

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Naval units:

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Installation instructions:

- You need to install BtS v.3.19 and Varietas Delectat v.9.x: (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=237192)
- Unzip the content in: [BtS folder]\Mods\Varietas Delectat\Assets\Modules\

Changelog:

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Credits (in random order):

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Stuff, that could be better.......:

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I hope you'll enjoy it; of course any idea, suggestion, criticism or insult are welcome

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avain · Apr 9, 2010

Let me be the first one to congratulate you, 10lire! Excellent work!

riddleofsteel · Apr 9, 2010

Looks great! Will it work in quot capita?

10lire · Apr 9, 2010

thank you!

@riddleofsteel: It is designed only for Varietas Delectat; I don't know if it is compatible with Quot Capita, but I wonder if it is..

AbsintheRed · Apr 9, 2010

Wow!!!
This is awesome

Another quality civ for Varietis Delectat!
Thank you very much for for doing this!

AbsintheRed · Apr 9, 2010

Btw, I have a great new for you 10lire:
Capo has a Cavour LH among his WIP leaders, here is the thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=336774&page=2

10lire · Apr 11, 2010

Great.. It will be included in 1.1 version..

KrugerPritz · Apr 12, 2010

Hey ood Work! :goodjob:

... If you search I made the italian units order sounds (scrivo in ingles anche per gli altri

). It's not the state of art... but you can hear if it's on for you...

cool3a2 · Apr 13, 2010

Uh... I totally missed this. Anyways, glad to see you've got it working!

As about your problems:
- your diplomacy text problem can be fixed if you switch to WoC modding style - that won't need much work and merging your mod with others shouldn't be any harder. The only problem is, that this is not standalone but for VD. Therefore, avain would have to switch to WoC, too. To my knowledge, there is no other way to fix this problem. If you are interested in WoC, take a look at my hun mod.
- diplomay sounds: if you use sounds from the Roman civ, the mp3s should be okay. That means your chances are good that you get it to work. Actually, I think you don't need to include the mp3s to your mod. Instead, it should be possible to reuse the sound defs from the Roman civ. Simply include what the Roman civ includes. Copy'n'paste. Otherwise you might give some details about what's going on. For example, how did you recognize that the game can't find the mp3s? Did you got an error message?
- unit order / select sounds: again, I'd need more infos. You might take a look at my Saxony mod as an exampe for how I did it. There, you can hear me. You already use wavs, mp3s are more difficult. I failed to produce working mp3s. Still, you might try to 'convert' your wavs to change their properties like frequency. If that doesn't work, I suppose their problem is the same as for your diplomacy sounds.

I could take a look at your files and improve on your german texts, but not before weekend.

10lire · Apr 14, 2010

KrugerPritz said:
Hey ood Work! ... If you search I made the italian units order sounds (scrivo in ingles anche per gli altri ). It's not the state of art... but you can hear if it's on for you...

Grazie! Mi spiace ma quando ho trovato i tuoi file audio io avevo già dei file fatti da me (se ti interessano posso spedirteli via PM). Ad ogni modo mi piacerebbe usare il tuo inno di Mameli durante i colloqui diplomatici (vedi più in basso).
ok, it's better if I speak inglese

Thanks!, Sorry I checked your units sounds but I got yet sounds of my own (if you are interested I will send you them via PM). Anyway I would like to use your Mameli anthem for my Diplo music (see below).

cool3a2 said:
- unit order / select sounds: again, I'd need more infos. You might take a look at my Saxony mod as an exampe for how I did it. There, you can hear me. You already use wavs, mp3s are more difficult. I failed to produce working mp3s. Still, you might try to 'convert' your wavs to change their properties like frequency. If that doesn't work, I suppose their problem is the same as for your diplomacy sounds.

This is what I did with XML trying to implement unit sounds:

Copied/pasted in Modules\Italy\XML\Audio\ VD's Audio3DScripts.xml, AudioDefines.xml (avain had modded them), Vanilla AudioDefinesSchema.xml and BtS AudioScriptSchema.xml (maybe these Schema files are redundand here; can xml call the original ones in the original folders?).
Added at the bottom of Audio3DScripts.xml this code:

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<Script3DSound>
<ScriptID>AS3D_ITALY_SELECT</ScriptID>
<SoundID>SND_ITALY_SELECT</SoundID>
<SoundType>GAME_SPEECH</SoundType>
<iMinVolume>100</iMinVolume>
<iMaxVolume>100</iMaxVolume>
<iPitchChangeDown>0</iPitchChangeDown>
<iPitchChangeUp>0</iPitchChangeUp>
<bLooping>0</bLooping>
<iMinTimeDelay>0</iMinTimeDelay>
<iMaxTimeDelay>0</iMaxTimeDelay>
<StartPosition>NONE</StartPosition>
<EndPosition>NONE</EndPosition>
<iMinVelocity>0</iMinVelocity>
<iMaxVelocity>0</iMaxVelocity>
<iMinDistanceFromListener>0</iMinDistanceFromListener>
<iMaxDistanceFromListener>0</iMaxDistanceFromListener>
<iMinDistanceForMaxVolume>500</iMinDistanceForMaxVolume>
<iMaxDistanceForMaxVolume>1000</iMaxDistanceForMaxVolume>
<iMinCutoffDistance>7000</iMinCutoffDistance>
<iMaxCutoffDistance>7000</iMaxCutoffDistance>
<bTaperForSoundtracks>0</bTaperForSoundtracks>
<iLengthOfSound>0</iLengthOfSound>
<fMinDryLevel>1.0</fMinDryLevel>
<fMaxDryLevel>1.0</fMaxDryLevel>
<fMinWetLevel>0.5</fMinWetLevel>
<fMaxWetLevel>0.5</fMaxWetLevel>
<iNotPlayPercent>0</iNotPlayPercent>
</Script3DSound>

<Script3DSound>
<ScriptID>AS3D_ITALY_ORDER</ScriptID>
<SoundID>SND_ITALY_ORDER</SoundID>
<SoundType>GAME_SPEECH</SoundType>
<iMinVolume>100</iMinVolume>
<iMaxVolume>100</iMaxVolume>
<iPitchChangeDown>0</iPitchChangeDown>
<iPitchChangeUp>0</iPitchChangeUp>
<bLooping>0</bLooping>
<iMinTimeDelay>0</iMinTimeDelay>
<iMaxTimeDelay>0</iMaxTimeDelay>
<StartPosition>NONE</StartPosition>
<EndPosition>NONE</EndPosition>
<iMinVelocity>0</iMinVelocity>
<iMaxVelocity>0</iMaxVelocity>
<iMinDistanceFromListener>0</iMinDistanceFromListener>
<iMaxDistanceFromListener>0</iMaxDistanceFromListener>
<iMinDistanceForMaxVolume>500</iMinDistanceForMaxVolume>
<iMaxDistanceForMaxVolume>1000</iMaxDistanceForMaxVolume>
<iMinCutoffDistance>7000</iMinCutoffDistance>
<iMaxCutoffDistance>7000</iMaxCutoffDistance>
<bTaperForSoundtracks>0</bTaperForSoundtracks>
<iLengthOfSound>0</iLengthOfSound>
<fMinDryLevel>1.0</fMinDryLevel>
<fMaxDryLevel>1.0</fMaxDryLevel>
<fMinWetLevel>0.5</fMinWetLevel>
<fMaxWetLevel>0.5</fMaxWetLevel>
<iNotPlayPercent>0</iNotPlayPercent>
</Script3DSound>
Added at the bottom of AudioDefines.xml this code:

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<SoundData>
<SoundID>SND_ITALY_ORDER</SoundID>
<Filename>Modules/Italy/Sounds/Units/ItalyOrder</Filename>
<LoadType>DYNAMIC_RES</LoadType>
<bIsCompressed>1</bIsCompressed>
<bInGeneric>1</bInGeneric>
</SoundData>
<SoundData>
<SoundID>SND_ITALY_SELECT</SoundID>
<Filename>Modules/Italy/Sounds/Units/ItalySelect</Filename>
<LoadType>DYNAMIC_RES</LoadType>
<bIsCompressed>1</bIsCompressed>
<bInGeneric>1</bInGeneric>
</SoundData>
Edited these lines in Italy_CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml (this file is in Modules\Italy\XML\Civilizations\) :

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<CivilizationSelectionSound>AS3D_ITALY_SELECT</CivilizationSelectionSound>
<CivilizationActionSound>AS3D_ITALY_ORDER</CivilizationActionSound>
Added my 20 ItalySelect-00#.wav and ItalyOrder-00#.wav files in \Modules\Italy\Sounds\Units\ (where # si a number from 0 to 9)

My units are still mute. :confused:

cool3a2 said:
- your diplomacy text problem can be fixed if you switch to WoC modding style - that won't need much work and merging your mod with others shouldn't be any harder. The only problem is, that this is not standalone but for VD. Therefore, avain would have to switch to WoC, too. To my knowledge, there is no other way to fix this problem. If you are interested in WoC, take a look at my hun mod.

I'm not sure about how WoC works; anyway I tried to "install" what I need from WoC Lite; I started a thread about (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=359606) where I wrote:

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I have also added [LHname]_CIV4DiplomacyInfos.xml and [LHname]_CIV4GameInfoSchema.xml (one for each LH) in Modules\Italy\XML\Leaderheads\[LHname]\ and edited [LHname]_CIV4DiplomacyInfos.xml files in this way (this example is for Cavour):

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Then I have edited Cavour_CIV4GameText.xml adding these lines:

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cool3a2 said:
- diplomay sounds: if you use sounds from the Roman civ, the mp3s should be okay. That means your chances are good that you get it to work. Actually, I think you don't need to include the mp3s to your mod. Instead, it should be possible to reuse the sound defs from the Roman civ. Simply include what the Roman civ includes. Copy'n'paste. Otherwise you might give some details about what's going on. For example, how did you recognize that the game can't find the mp3s? Did you got an error message?

From Ancient to Renaissance age I use Roman Diplo sounds; as you say, I don't included them to my mod; I "call" them from my [LHname]_CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml files and they work.
From Industrial to Future age I'd like to use two songs: Mameli_anthem.mp3 from KrugerPritz for Lorenzo and Cavour LHs and Roman_future.mp3 (I found it somewhere in the Civ folders) for Mussolini. They don't work:

Copied/pasted these mp3s in Modules\Italy\Sounds\Diplomacy\.
Copied/pasted BtS Audio2DScripts.xml in \Modules\Italy\XML\Audio\
Edited Audio2DScripts.xml adding this code:

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<Script2DSound>
<ScriptID>AS2D_DIPLO_MAMELI_ANTHEM</ScriptID>
<SoundID>DIPLO_MAMELI_ANTHEM</SoundID>
<SoundType>GAME_MUSIC</SoundType>
<iMinVolume>75</iMinVolume>
<iMaxVolume>75</iMaxVolume>
<iPitchChangeDown>0</iPitchChangeDown>
<iPitchChangeUp>0</iPitchChangeUp>
<iMinLeftPan>-1</iMinLeftPan>
<iMaxLeftPan>-1</iMaxLeftPan>
<iMinRightPan>-1</iMinRightPan>
<iMaxRightPan>-1</iMaxRightPan>
<bLooping>1</bLooping>
<iMinTimeDelay>0</iMinTimeDelay>
<iMaxTimeDelay>0</iMaxTimeDelay>
<bTaperForSoundtracks>0</bTaperForSoundtracks>
<iLengthOfSound>0</iLengthOfSound>
<fMinDryLevel>1.0</fMinDryLevel>
<fMaxDryLevel>1.0</fMaxDryLevel>
<fMinWetLevel>0.0</fMinWetLevel>
<fMaxWetLevel>0.0</fMaxWetLevel>
</Script2DSound>

<Script2DSound>
<ScriptID>AS2D_DIPLO_ROMAN_FUTURE</ScriptID>
<SoundID>DIPLO_ROMAN_FUTURE</SoundID>
<SoundType>GAME_MUSIC</SoundType>
<iMinVolume>75</iMinVolume>
<iMaxVolume>75</iMaxVolume>
<iPitchChangeDown>0</iPitchChangeDown>
<iPitchChangeUp>0</iPitchChangeUp>
<iMinLeftPan>-1</iMinLeftPan>
<iMaxLeftPan>-1</iMaxLeftPan>
<iMinRightPan>-1</iMinRightPan>
<iMaxRightPan>-1</iMaxRightPan>
<bLooping>1</bLooping>
<iMinTimeDelay>0</iMinTimeDelay>
<iMaxTimeDelay>0</iMaxTimeDelay>
<bTaperForSoundtracks>0</bTaperForSoundtracks>
<iLengthOfSound>0</iLengthOfSound>
<fMinDryLevel>1.0</fMinDryLevel>
<fMaxDryLevel>1.0</fMaxDryLevel>
<fMinWetLevel>0.0</fMinWetLevel>
<fMaxWetLevel>0.0</fMaxWetLevel>
</Script2DSound>
Edited these lines in [LHname]_CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml (it's in the same folder of DiplomacyInfos - this example is for Cavour):

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<DiplomacyMusicPeace>
<DiploMusicPeaceEra>
<EraType>ERA_ANCIENT</EraType>
<DiploScriptId>AS2D_DIPLO_CAESAR_EARLY</DiploScriptId>
</DiploMusicPeaceEra>
<DiploMusicPeaceEra>
<EraType>ERA_CLASSICAL</EraType>
<DiploScriptId>AS2D_DIPLO_CAESAR_EARLY</DiploScriptId>
</DiploMusicPeaceEra>
<DiploMusicPeaceEra>
<EraType>ERA_MEDIEVAL</EraType>
<DiploScriptId>AS2D_DIPLO_CAESAR_MIDDLE</DiploScriptId>
</DiploMusicPeaceEra>
<DiploMusicPeaceEra>
<EraType>ERA_RENAISSANCE</EraType>
<DiploScriptId>AS2D_DIPLO_CAESAR_MIDDLE</DiploScriptId>
</DiploMusicPeaceEra>
<DiploMusicPeaceEra>
<EraType>ERA_INDUSTRIAL</EraType>
<DiploScriptId>AS2D_DIPLO_MAMELI_ANTHEM</DiploScriptId>
</DiploMusicPeaceEra>
<DiploMusicPeaceEra>
<EraType>ERA_MODERN</EraType>
<DiploScriptId>AS2D_DIPLO_MAMELI_ANTHEM</DiploScriptId>
</DiploMusicPeaceEra>
<DiploMusicPeaceEra>
<EraType>ERA_FUTURE</EraType>
<DiploScriptId>AS2D_DIPLO_MAMELI_ANTHEM</DiploScriptId>
</DiploMusicPeaceEra>
</DiplomacyMusicPeace>

My civilization has still no longer music when it reaches Industrial age.. :confused:

cool3a2 said:
I could take a look at your files and improve on your german texts, but not before weekend.

Thank you very much !! :goodjob:

I hope I have clarified my problems.. and I hope also to solve them!

cool3a2 · Apr 14, 2010

First of all: sorry that I didn't reply to your question in the other thread that you just linked in. That was right before the easter holidays when I wasn't at home annd wasn't online for a few days. To finally give an answer: you should set the ModularLoading line in your mods ini to 0. Yes, that sounds like nonsense, but you really should do that. Still, I believe that your mod won't work although I can't think of anything else you'd need to do. Avains VD doesn't use WoC to my knowledge. Now, you try to merge a WoC mod with a non-WoC mod - this ways, that won't be possible, I believe. I think you would have to make the main VD module WoC style, too, to get this to work. Or you keep your own module non-WoC style, but then there is no way to get your diplomacy texts to work. As I said, you would need to talk to avain if he would switch to WoC.

Next, when I said that you should take a look at my Saxony mod, I didn't want to say that you may use my wavs. I was thinking about taking a look at the file structure. The problem with your sounds is not within the xmls, but where they are. Sound definitions always belon in the non-modular part of your mod, that means they don't belong into the Modules folder. Usually, you should put them in Assets/XML/Audio (within you mod of course). To my knowledge, sounds can't be made modular - not even with WoC. This ways, avain either knows more then me or his sounds don't work either or he has a copy of all his sound defs in the non-modular part of his mod. I remember that I once recognized this issue with his Hungary VD module: if I remember correctly, his unit select order sounds didn't work either. But that is already a while ago... Anyways, you would need to merge your sound defs with all the others - the default ones plus the ones coming from VD. There would be a solution for this, too, but again avain would be the man you should ask. If you take a look at my hun mod, you will find an executable jar. What it does, is searching for audiodefs in all Modules (each modules audio xmls would have to contain only those definitions that enable sounds of their own Module - that means, that your xmls would only contain definitions for italian sounds - no default sounds), then merges them with the audio defs files in the non-modular part of the mod (that's where the main VD mod comes to mind again). That would mean, that avain would have to include the audiodefs in the non-modular part of his VD mod and also include said jar. Then, you would add the italian sound defs to your module (this time they would in-deed belong into Italy's module folder). If someone wants to 'plugin' you module into VD, he would have to run said jar once to merge the audio xmls (he would need to install the Java Runtime Environment / JRE first to be able to run the jar file - but that's simple). After that, the user could actually remove your audio defs in your module, but they remain inactive anyways. That's you only chance to get this working. Ah, and it could be that you will need WoC again, but I don't think so.
To summarize:
- use the jar and keep your audio defs where they are, remove all default audio defs from their xmls, avain would have to provide a set of default audio xmls from civ4 so that the jar can merge
- move your defs into the non-modular part of the mod, but it's hard to get this compatible with VD and its other modules

Lastly, you don't need the [LHname]_CIV4DiplomacyInfos.xml file to get your audio working. That file is about diplomacy texts only. Then, the GameInfoSchema might be unnecessary, too, if no other xml needs that. And of course, the texts you posted and their file is not needed for sounds. But of course, they are related to your other problem.

10lire · Apr 15, 2010

cool3a2 said:
you don't need the [LHname]_CIV4DiplomacyInfos.xml file to get your audio working. That file is about diplomacy texts only. Then, the GameInfoSchema might be unnecessary, too, if no other xml needs that. And of course, the texts you posted and their file is not needed for sounds. But of course, they are related to your other problem.

Yes, I do a little confusion in my previous post; I have edited it: now the comment about [LHname]_CIV4DiplomacyInfos.xml is related to "my other problem", the Diplo texts..

cool3a2 said:
First of all: sorry that I didn't reply to your question in the other thread that you just linked in. That was right before the easter holidays when I wasn't at home annd wasn't online for a few days.

Kein Problem! I think that if someone doesn't reply he has valid reasons!

cool3a2 said:
you should set the ModularLoading line in your mods ini to 0. Yes, that sounds like nonsense, but you really should do that. Still, I believe that your mod won't work although I can't think of anything else you'd need to do. Avains VD doesn't use WoC to my knowledge. Now, you try to merge a WoC mod with a non-WoC mod - this ways, that won't be possible, I believe. I think you would have to make the main VD module WoC style, too, to get this to work. Or you keep your own module non-WoC style, but then there is no way to get your diplomacy texts to work. As I said, you would need to talk to avain if he would switch to WoC.

I'll ask to avain if he is planning to make his VD9 in WoC style, but I don't think so. If, on the contrary, he will make it so, is all-I-have-to-do to copy in \Varietas Delectat\Assets\Modules\Italy\ the WoC Modules folder, the res folder and the ddl and then to switch modular loading to 0?

cool3a2 said:
Next, when I said that you should take a look at my Saxony mod, I didn't want to say that you may use my wavs. I was thinking about taking a look at the file structure.

I was talking to Krugerpritz about his sound files.. Again, I have edited my previous post to make this more clear.

cool3a2 said:
The problem with your sounds is not within the xmls, but where they are. Sound definitions always belon in the non-modular part of your mod, that means they don't belong into the Modules folder. Usually, you should put them in Assets/XML/Audio (within you mod of course). To my knowledge, sounds can't be made modular - not even with WoC. This ways, avain either knows more then me or his sounds don't work either or he has a copy of all his sound defs in the non-modular part of his mod. I remember that I once recognized this issue with his Hungary VD module: if I remember correctly, his unit select order sounds didn't work either. But that is already a while ago... Anyways, you would need to merge your sound defs with all the others - the default ones plus the ones coming from VD. There would be a solution for this, too, but again avain would be the man you should ask. If you take a look at my hun mod, you will find an executable jar. What it does, is searching for audiodefs in all Modules (each modules audio xmls would have to contain only those definitions that enable sounds of their own Module - that means, that your xmls would only contain definitions for italian sounds - no default sounds), then merges them with the audio defs files in the non-modular part of the mod (that's where the main VD mod comes to mind again). That would mean, that avain would have to include the audiodefs in the non-modular part of his VD mod and also include said jar. Then, you would add the italian sound defs to your module (this time they would in-deed belong into Italy's module folder). If someone wants to 'plugin' you module into VD, he would have to run said jar once to merge the audio xmls (he would need to install the Java Runtime Environment / JRE first to be able to run the jar file - but that's simple). After that, the user could actually remove your audio defs in your module, but they remain inactive anyways. That's you only chance to get this working. Ah, and it could be that you will need WoC again, but I don't think so.
To summarize:
- use the jar and keep your audio defs where they are, remove all default audio defs from their xmls, avain would have to provide a set of default audio xmls from civ4 so that the jar can merge
- move your defs into the non-modular part of the mod, but it's hard to get this compatible with VD and its other modules

Ok, thanks! I think that VD audio files are already the default files merged with VD audio defs. I have to ask to him if he wants to include jar.

cool3a2 · Apr 15, 2010

If, on the contrary, he will make it so, is all-I-have-to-do to copy in \Varietas Delectat\Assets\Modules\Italy\ the WoC Modules folder, the res folder and the ddl and then to switch modular loading to 0?

Actually, this would be avains job. But he would have to copy the res folder and the ddl to \Varietas Delectat\Assets. Besides of this, he would have to copy the MFL file and its schema to his Modules folder (I suppose there is such a folder already in VD). What you said about the ini is right. Also, there is a folder called "Unloaded Modules" or something in WoC Lite, which is empty. I suggest you copy it. You might try it without it, too, but on the other side adding an empty folder is not a big loss.

Ok, thanks! I think that VD audio files are already the default files merged with VD audio defs. I have to ask to him if he wants to include jar.

If he keeps those files in the non-modular part of VD (not in a subfolder of the Modules folder), this could be.

EDIT: Try searching an adequate art for your UB on google warehouse. If you find something, I might be able to convert it. Note: the simpler its geometry is, the better. If it is too complicated, it does not make sense to convert it as it would mean to much work. Also, it might take me a while as I will concentrate on something that is for me and avain for now.

10lire · Apr 16, 2010

cool3a2 said:
Actually, this would be avains job. But he would have to copy the res folder and the ddl to \Varietas Delectat\Assets. Besides of this, he would have to copy the MFL file and its schema to his Modules folder (I suppose there is such a folder already in VD). What you said about the ini is right. Also, there is a folder called "Unloaded Modules" or something in WoC Lite, which is empty. I suggest you copy it. You might try it without it, too, but on the other side adding an empty folder is not a big loss.

If he keeps those files in the non-modular part of VD (not in a subfolder of the Modules folder), this could be.

I'll try to do this by myself and then (if it works :rolleyes:

) I'll submit the suggestion to avain.

cool3a2 said:
EDIT: Try searching an adequate art for your UB on google warehouse. If you find something, I might be able to convert it. Note: the simpler its geometry is, the better. If it is too complicated, it does not make sense to convert it as it would mean to much work. Also, it might take me a while as I will concentrate on something that is for me and avain for now.

I had already searched something in Google warehouse, but there is nothing at all.
I thought about something like a standard Forge with some paintings and statues on its front. The Estetics tech icon and the Momument building (scaled down) could be fine. A model of Leonardo's flying machine could be funny too.. (The flying machine is a VD unit); I think it isn't easy to do this; in any case I appreciate again your help :thumbsup:

cool3a2 · Apr 16, 2010

had already searched something in Google warehouse, but there is nothing at all.
I thought about something like a standard Forge with some paintings and statues on its front. The Estetics tech icon and the Momument building (scaled down) could be fine. A model of Leonardo's flying machine could be funny too.. (The flying machine is a VD unit); I think it isn't easy to do this; in any case I appreciate again your help

I'll see what I can do, but I'll start with this in 2 weeks or later. you might also start a request in the graphics modification section (there is a thread for requests already) as I'm not the best building modder around. Usually I'm only converting things. However, if you get that done by someone else, that's no problem for me. Just let me know in time.

10lire · Apr 18, 2010

cool3a2 said:
I'll see what I can do, but I'll start with this in 2 weeks or later. you might also start a request in the graphics modification section (there is a thread for requests already) as I'm not the best building modder around. Usually I'm only converting things. However, if you get that done by someone else, that's no problem for me. Just let me know in time.

I made the request here. I'll keep you informed if someone will accept to make it.

cool3a2 · Apr 18, 2010

Alright. If there is nobody who wants to fulfill your request, I have some ideas. I'm still thinking about it, so I won't mention details yet. I'll write a post about that at the end of the week. Till then, I hope that I can finish the german civilopedia texts. I've taken a look at one of them and started to work on it. I have to say that the texts are pretty good. I just altered some words to make the texts sound more normal, but I couldn't find any grammar mistake yet. So good work!

BTW: nitram made a pretty good Victor Emmanuel II. LH. You might consider to add him (I mean, that LH, not nitram

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KrugerPritz · Apr 18, 2010

10lire said:
Grazie! Mi spiace ma quando ho trovato i tuoi file audio io avevo già dei file fatti da me (se ti interessano posso spedirteli via PM). Ad ogni modo mi piacerebbe usare il tuo inno di Mameli durante i colloqui diplomatici (vedi più in basso).
ok, it's better if I speak inglese
Thanks!, Sorry I checked your units sounds but I got yet sounds of my own (if you are interested I will send you them via PM). Anyway I would like to use your Mameli anthem for my Diplo music (see below).

va benissimo!

Nikko · Apr 22, 2010

Wow, wonderful!!

You want used my skin for this mod? I've make another skin...for Dardo IFV...is in queue mod. actually!!
For the flag...i've two advices...
I think which the turrite flags an appropiate, but in the past our country used some different symbols...Roman repubblican wolf, Imperial eagle, Christ monogram in Costantino's era...after few centuries the principals symbols are imperial biface eagle (in the north e in the south, under Federico di Svevia) and cross (some cities red cross in background white, or different cross, like Pisa or Amalfi). Now, if i remember good, the most city's flag color are blue and yellow!

10lire · Apr 23, 2010

Thanks! I missed your Dardo skin; I'll check it!

I have chosen a symbol as generic as possible; I have already said that the green-white-red flag is relative only to the last two centuries; the "Italia turrita" (I think the exact translation in english is: "castled Italy") is a personification of the whole civilization and it comes from the XI century (the Italian Communes age, the first rebirth of italian civilization..); however any suggestion is appreciated

Italian civilization for Varietas Delectat

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