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It's Election Season in Canada(?)

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Babbler, Mar 23, 2011.

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Who would you vote for?

  1. Canadian - Conservative Party

    9.6%
  2. Canadian - Liberal Party

    16.0%
  3. Canadian - Bloc Quebecois

    1.1%
  4. Canadian - New Democratic Party

    11.7%
  5. Canadian - Green Party

    9.6%
  6. Canadian - Other Party/Independent

    1.1%
  7. Non-Canadian - Conservative Party

    11.7%
  8. Non-Canadian - Liberal Party

    7.4%
  9. Non-Canadian - Bloc Quebecois

    8.5%
  10. Non-Canadian - New Democratic Party

    9.6%
  11. Non-Canadian - Green Party

    7.4%
  12. Non-Canadian - Other Party/Independent

    6.4%
  1. Thorvald of Lym

    Thorvald of Lym A Little Sketchy

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    I'm just in disbelief over how despite such blatant steamrolling of democracy and decorum, people actually try to defend these guys. I mean, the sitting government was found in contempt of Parliament, which I believe is the first such ruling in the Commonwealth; how the hell is this not a main election issue?
     
  2. SuperBeaverInc.

    SuperBeaverInc. Groucho

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    Rabble rabble rabble, coalitions are bad, rabble rabble rabble.
     
  3. Thorvald of Lym

    Thorvald of Lym A Little Sketchy

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    Tell Harper to take a trip to Europe some time. Preferably outside a G8 summit.
     
  4. Zelig

    Zelig Beep Boop

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    Well, I don't see this as much of a problem - I could see it becoming standard procedure for any opposition to a minority government to find the government in contempt of Parliament before future elections.
     
  5. Evie

    Evie Pronounced like Eevee

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    More and more polls, still the same dang picture: humongous NDP surge all across Quebec, now near to or at the 40% mark (38.7% by one Ekos poll, 41% by an Environics one). That's what the Bloc used to get. Globe and Mail had political experts looking at it and saying the NDP could hit 50+ seats right there.

    That's not so much an orange wave as an orange magnitude-9-quake-with-30ft-tsunami...
     
  6. Zelig

    Zelig Beep Boop

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    Slow and cyclic, twice daily?

    Ninja-edit can't fool me. :p
     
  7. Rub'Rum

    Rub'Rum Hates acronyms

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    Percentage doesn't quite equal seats, as we've seen many times, but who knows.
     
  8. Evie

    Evie Pronounced like Eevee

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    The orange wave could end up being a tidal variety (of waves) :p

    IE, a storm surge/tsunami/holy-mother-of-god-the-thirty-feet-high-wall-of-water-is-coming-straight-for-me wave :p

    Simon - percentage doesn't always equal seat, but when you're sitting around 40% with the closest rival being 12-13% behind you...well, usually you do get a few seats out of it.
     
  9. Maniacal

    Maniacal the green Napoleon

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    Except the polls really only ask a very small amount of people in each riding. Most of the numbers I've seen have been 3000 people at most and I don't think that was in the same riding either.
     
  10. emzie

    emzie wicked witch of the North

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    Er, that's how national polling works?
     
  11. Evie

    Evie Pronounced like Eevee

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    Yeah. Which is why one poll with unlikely number is viewed with some skepticism. But when several posters all point in the same direction, and even increase those numbers...well, they're not all asking the same 3000 people, but they're getting similar signals, so...
     
  12. Zelig

    Zelig Beep Boop

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    http://www.thestar.com/business/art...atforms-all-offer-surprises-on-digital-policy

    These platforms all suck.
     
  13. Rub'Rum

    Rub'Rum Hates acronyms

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    There was some guy talking about polling on radio today. He was talking about how hard it is to make polls without bias.

    He ended the interview by saying pretty much what I said in a post above: he is quite convinced that to get a good estimate of the real results on election nights, you can simply attribute 75% of the "undecided" answers to the conservatives. In the same way, in the 1995 referendum, a polling company had almost exactly guessed the outcome of the vote by attributing 75% of the undecided answers to the "no" camp. Basically, when statu quo is unpopular in the population, or when they feel they are not part of a newish thing that is popping up, people will not dare say what their real choice is.
     
  14. SuperBeaverInc.

    SuperBeaverInc. Groucho

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    All this talk of the NDP winning 100 seats makes me feel like I'm living in some sort of Bizarro-Canada.
     
  15. Lord_Iggy

    Lord_Iggy Tsesk'ihe

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    It's a very interesting possibility, but I have a lot of trouble actually picturing it happening. :p
     
  16. Dachs

    Dachs Hero of the Soviet Union

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    Doesn't it seem kinda like all of the projections about the Lib Dems from the last UK general election?
     
  17. Evie

    Evie Pronounced like Eevee

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    There may well be some of that, yes.

    Yet another poll, btw - Angus Reid, collected on 24-25th of April from 2040 answerers.

    Nationally
    Conservative Party - 35%
    New Democratic Party - 30%
    Liberal Party - 22%

    Provincially (you know where)
    New Democratic Party - 38%
    Bloc Québécois - 29%
    Liberal Party - 16%
    Conservative Party - 14%

    That NDP-near-40%-in-Quebec thing is coming from lots of pollsters in lots of places, though.

    The NDP also appear to be rising in Ontario - not unexpected (people have been calling that Ontario was following closely the rest of the province), up to 27% now.

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    The pollster point out that much of the NDP's support still comes from young voters, who usually don't vote much...but then again, we also just set a record for early voting...and how many young voters precisely skip voting on "no chance" ground?
     
  18. SuperBeaverInc.

    SuperBeaverInc. Groucho

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    Depends on if any of the candidates are using social media. In our recent Calgary municipal elections, there was a huge increase in voter participation, thanks in large part to one candidate, Naheed Nenshi, who successfully used it to reach out to younger voters and win the election, even though he had been polling lowly a month before the vote.
     
  19. sysyphus

    sysyphus So they tell me

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    I was actually thinking he should take a trip to Mars... one way.
     
  20. Lord_Iggy

    Lord_Iggy Tsesk'ihe

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    Either would be good, really.
     

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