It's Election Season in Canada(?)

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Babbler, Mar 23, 2011.

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Who would you vote for?

  1. Canadian - Conservative Party

    9.6%
  2. Canadian - Liberal Party

    16.0%
  3. Canadian - Bloc Quebecois

    1.1%
  4. Canadian - New Democratic Party

    11.7%
  5. Canadian - Green Party

    9.6%
  6. Canadian - Other Party/Independent

    1.1%
  7. Non-Canadian - Conservative Party

    11.7%
  8. Non-Canadian - Liberal Party

    7.4%
  9. Non-Canadian - Bloc Quebecois

    8.5%
  10. Non-Canadian - New Democratic Party

    9.6%
  11. Non-Canadian - Green Party

    7.4%
  12. Non-Canadian - Other Party/Independent

    6.4%
  1. Kerozine

    Kerozine Deity

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    This I don't understand. Alberta is at best split, and Quebec is overwhelmingly for? :hmm:
     
  2. Maniacal

    Maniacal the green Napoleon

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    Or the spaces between the islands in BC... and Quebec is clearly seeking trade partners. Although the USA is out biggest trade partner because we are, you know, next to them. And many of the responses (although they are of course probably uneven, it was only the 2 million people who checked the CBC website) make me lose faith in people even more :/
     
  3. Thorvald of Lym

    Thorvald of Lym A Little Sketchy

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    D'oh, I thought it was obvious. :mischief:
     
  4. Rub'Rum

    Rub'Rum Hates acronyms

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    You can clearly see a well delineated Quebec on most of the questions.
     
  5. Zelig

    Zelig Beep Boop

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    Off the top of my head, policies I'm against:
    -Increasing CPP deductions
    -Taxing Netflix/ISPs
    -Capping credit card interest rates at prime+5%
    -HST penalty cancellations
     
  6. Taliesin

    Taliesin Puttin' on the Ritz

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    The Quebecois (at least the separatist movement) are largely under the delusion that the province will get a better deal with America than from English Canada. (Presumably on the theory that total indifference is a better prospect than uneasy mutual suspicion.) To be fair, English Canada has done nearly everything possible to encourage this misapprehension.
     
  7. Rub'Rum

    Rub'Rum Hates acronyms

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    My question isn't "why do the Quebecois want more economic relations with the US" but more like.. Why doesn't the rest of the country want it?
     
  8. Maniacal

    Maniacal the green Napoleon

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    Maybe we feel its pretty damn close already, if not too close for some markets (agricultural products in BC have suffered due to free trade apparently).
     
  9. Lord_Iggy

    Lord_Iggy Tsesk'ihe

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    That's the actual shape of Nunavut though- all of this includes coastal territories.
     
  10. sysyphus

    sysyphus So they tell me

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    If relations get any closer we'll have pretty much no control over our own economy. Given that the US is in deep financial trouble right now, English Canadians generally believe that diversifying our trade is important.
     
  11. Rub'Rum

    Rub'Rum Hates acronyms

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    Yeah well diversifying is always a good thing and I'm pretty sure if you had asked the question "should Canada diversify its trade" everybody would have said yes. I'm just not sure that closer economic relationship with the US must come at a significant expense of diversifying, and I don't think any of us is quite qualified to know at this point. It's hard to quantify the current relationship but it's only natural that people who are close are our best resource traders and best friends. We got half-saved from the last economic crisis (well, compared to the US). I don't think it had as much to do with who were our trading partners as it had to do with how we monitor and regulate banking here.

    Also, Princescamp, agricultural products are a class of their own in this sort of debate and you can tell by the subjects at various free trade commissions. I think we all agree that agriculture is one field where a good level of protectionism is probably right if we want to occupy our territory.
     
  12. SimSimSalabim

    SimSimSalabim Chieftain

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    Is anyone else fuming about Ruth Ellen Brousseau?
     
  13. Rub'Rum

    Rub'Rum Hates acronyms

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    Frankly I'd rather have Ruth Ellen Brosseau than yet another lawyer or MBA.
     
  14. Evie

    Evie Pronounced like Eevee

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    I'm not particularly concerned with the fact that she hasn't answered the media circus yet. The media sometimes have a tendency to think the world owes them, and to get in hissy fit/character assassination mode against people who don't do things their way.

    I'm concerned with the allegations about her election, though of course not making any conclusion yet.
     
  15. Rub'Rum

    Rub'Rum Hates acronyms

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    Except she did

    You can listen to the interview by locating the sound clip in the middle of the page. It's in English mostly, as opposed to the text.
     
  16. Evie

    Evie Pronounced like Eevee

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    Ah, you're right, she just did. Well, then I'm not concerned about hwo long she took to answer the media circus. The media (still) seem to think everyone should be at their beck and call and have an obligation to answer their question whenever the media wants.
     
  17. Zelig

    Zelig Beep Boop

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    Yeah, I don't really care, she's not going to be any worse than Rob Anders, in any case.
     
  18. History_Buff

    History_Buff Knight of Cydonia

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    Better her than my local MP, one Jason Kenney.
     
  19. Kerozine

    Kerozine Deity

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    Diversifying our trade doesn't need to come at the expense of increasing our economic relations* with the US. If anything, the two concepts are complements to each other, with trade diversification enabling our industries to sustain themselves during times of economic or political hardship (e.g. recession, trade disputes, etc). And Closer economic ties with the US, for instance by minimizing delays at the border, would just improve the profitability of trade in that market as soon as conditions improve.

    I don't think we're anywhere near the point where increasing economic relations with the US would undermine our economic sovereignty; there's been no serious discussion about adopting a common currency and talk has so far focused on security issues.

    *Just so we're all on the same page and to clarify the term's ambiguity, I'm taking 'economic relations' to mean 'easing trade restrictions' whatever those might be (e.g. common security policies, border-customs restrictions, etc).
     
  20. SuperBeaverInc.

    SuperBeaverInc. Groucho

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    At least you don't have Rob Anders!
     

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