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"It's to crowded"

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by roobz, Jul 14, 2009.

  1. roobz

    roobz Chieftain

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    My cities allways becomes unhappy and the reason for it is "It's to crowded".
    Someone who knows how to counter it?
     
  2. PibbZ

    PibbZ Paladin

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    The best way to counter it is to hook up with luxury resources. You can also consider increasing your Culture slider, or build improvements that increases happiness (i.e Colloseum, Temple, Cathedral and so on).

    Edit: Welcome to the forums by the way :)
     
  3. PieceOfMind

    PieceOfMind Drill IV Defender Retired Moderator

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    "It's too crowded" increases by one for every extra population point your city has. It's the basic way of saying that as your cities grow you need to find more ways to keep them happy.

    The size your city can grow to before going unhappy (unhappy faces outnumber the happy faces) is often called the happy cap. To increase the happy cap, try to secure more resources that grant happiness bonuses (e.g. ivory, gold, gems, sugar etc.). You can also build certain buildings (e.g. theatres, colosseums, temples) to increase the happiness in the particular city.

    A valuable civic for increasing the happy cap is Hereditary Rule, which is available with the Monarchy tech. Every military unit you station in the city will then provide +1:).

    For a comprehensive guide, look up the "Ways into happiness" guide written by cabert.

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    Here it is. http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=189559
     
  4. tom123

    tom123 Warlord

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    Well, its probably not the best solution all the time, but I would say, use slavery and whip a few things to get rid of some population. It is also possible to kill those who are unhappy about the whip being used if you use it twice, or sometimes more.
    After that, slow down food production by moving some people off food tiles.
    I'm certainly not an expert on this, but that is what I would do.
     
  5. roobz

    roobz Chieftain

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    thanks for your quick answers :)
     
  6. Phrossack

    Phrossack Armored Fish and Armored Men

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    If the city is angry, and all other avenues have been exhausted, I turn everyone into a Citizen or some other specialist so that the city starves. I keep this up until the anger goes away. Starvation is bad, but the people like seeing that they have a little more elbow room now that their neighbor is dead.:mwaha:
     
  7. xchen08

    xchen08 King

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    No real reason to do that. It's bad to get unhappy population because they don't contribute anything, but once you have them, there's no point in starving them away either. You can always use them up in a big whip, and once you get more happiness, they become immediately productive instead of you needing to wait for population growth.
     
  8. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Deity

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    They are complaining because you don't have enough cottages. You should build more cottages so that people would be able to move to the countryside from the crowded cities and reduce the overcrowding. :mischief:
     
  9. DementedAvenger

    DementedAvenger Prince

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    Also key is building enough roads - if people are living in the suburbs of the cottages, they likely need to commute into work, and as those living in L.A. can attest, this leads to LOTS of traffic.
     
  10. 99wattr89

    99wattr89 Warlord

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    A well developed public transport system will also help with this.
     
  11. Birdman6

    Birdman6 Warlord

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    As will a lot of Starbucks. Commuters gotta have their coffee fix!
     
  12. 99wattr89

    99wattr89 Warlord

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    That requires a mod though.

    It would be the only corporation that replaces every building in your city with a coffee house.
     
  13. Birdman6

    Birdman6 Warlord

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    It could be a "disease" corp...you impose it on another civ!
     
  14. Xellos-_^

    Xellos-_^ Prince

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    start a tv corp and turn all the resident of the city into mindless zombies/couch potatos
     
  15. Dragonxander PR

    Dragonxander PR Emperor of the Drakons

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    Isn't that the purpose of the Mental Control Center in the BtS mod "Next War"?

    Back on topic, you now have your answers. One more thing, don't overwhip, & favor big whippings (each whip will temporarlily add 1 :mad: for some time, no matter how many population is sacrificed).
     
  16. Ramesses

    Ramesses Ruler. Visionary. Pimp.

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    Unless you're playing RevolutionsDCM.

    But I digress.
     
  17. Willem

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    Obviously not. It's really not a good idea to whip twice, since each time you create more unhappy people for a certain number of turns. If you just keep whipping in order to get rid of it, you're going to find yourself in a state of perpetual unhappiness. You whip once then wait until the happiness from that action wears off. If your city is going to grow again before it does, move some people off your food tiles to slow down the growth so that you don't end up with a double whammy of unhappiness. It takes a bit of coordination to whip properly, you want to be careful if you don't know how it works.
     
  18. Willem

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    Now why are you telling someone who's obviously new the game something like this? It's absolutely not true and you're not being the least bit helpful. All you'll manage to do is confuse him even further. If you don't have anything constructive to add, then don't post.
     
  19. Shackel

    Shackel Still a Settler D:

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    Oh come on, Willem, have a sense of humor. >_>

    There is not much you can do about that, as it's basically trying to make sure every city doesn't hit pop. 50.

    Sorry. 3:
     
  20. Willem

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    Well I didn't find it very funny, it's just misleading someone who probably doesn't know any better. It wouldn't be the first time I've seen someone posting thinking that Cottages had something to do with overcrowding.
     

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