I've got a dilemma

[Taras Bulba]

I have thought long and hard about it, and so far, the only thing I can think of to answer it is to suck it up, and not play...

but after playing against the really stupid AI, and beating the heck out of them on cheiftain, but getting tired of their stupid bonuses on harder levels, and always declaring war on my for no apparent reason, i got sick of playing them.

I wanted to play multi-player

I looked it up, and in my circumstances, since the computer that has Civilization III is NOT the one that has the internet, i cannot play anything but hotseat.

Hotseat presented its own problems. Trading was freaky, it slowed down the game a WHOLE lot, and it just wasn't very fun...

PBEM Games would be possible, but VERY VERY annoying, because seeing as everytime i download something, i have to put it on a flashdrive and transfer it over onto the Civ III computer, so i would have to transfer over the save every turn

The rest all require me to have internet on the other computer.


My parents will not let me put the game on the computer with internet, because it isn't that fast, and needs all the memory space it can get. The computer that has it right now doesn't have virus protection, so we cannot hook up the roater to put internet on that computer.

My question is, is there anyway i can get the 1.7 GB Civilization complete onto my 1 GB flash drive, so i can at least play mutliplayer games?

1-could just coping the Conquest folder work?
2-are their files that i can crop out?
3-will i need a bigger flash drive?
4-or do i just need to beg and beg and beg some more to my parents to allow me to put it on the internet computer?

PS-the computer that has Civ III complete on it right now has tons of memory, but little RAM, and the internet computer has quite a bit less memory, and alot more RAM

PPS-don't be ashamed if you were completely confused by what i said, i do it ALL the time

 

[ecuwins]

I am a bit confused as to your question. I think you are asking: Can you play civ from the flash drive? The answer is no. Even if the flash drive was big enough it still would not work.

It sounds like your only options are: 1) Bigger hard drive in the "internet computer" or 2) Anti-Virus and wireless card for the "non-internet computer"

 

[Taras Bulba]

I am a bit confused as to your question. I think you are asking: Can you play civ from the flash drive? The answer is no. Even if the flash drive was big enough it still would not work.

really? Theorectically, it should work, because all you need is to have all the files on the Flash Drive, and to put a shortcut on the Desktop.

Have the shortcut lead to the flashdrive, and put the flashdrive in. then put the CD in, and open up the shortcut, and it should lead right to the Flashdrive

 

[CommandoBob]

Let's see: 2 PCs. One is connected to the Internet but it lacks RAM and is slow. The other, which has C3C on it, is not connected to the Internet but can play the game OK. This machine also lacks anti-virus software.

Unless something changes, your options are limited, but Succession Games might be one such option. You would not be as active (not playing every turn) but the game saves would still need to be moved from machine to machine.

On the machine without anti-virus, there are free (for personal use) anti-virus programs available. AVG, from GriSoft comes to mind (and a quick Google search), but it is not the only one. The download is 27.2MB and the documentation is only another 500KB.

 

[ecuwins]

Taras -- I do believe the game must be installed over an OS to work properly -- in which case it would not run from a flash drive. Maybe if a few critical files and registry entries were on the PC then Civ3 could run from a flash drive. This may be a good question for the technical support forum.

 

[Taras Bulba]

Let's see: 2 PCs. One is connected to the Internet but it lacks RAM and is slow. The other, which has C3C on it, is not connected to the Internet but can play the game OK. This machine also lacks anti-virus software.

umm... sort of

Computer 1-Internet, Good RAM, little memory

Computer 2-no Internet(has Civ III), poor RAM, loads of Memory

This may be a good question for the technical support forum.

i think ill go ask

 

[SG-17]

I think you can installl it directly to the flash drive, i had my copy of vanilla on a a flash drive and it worked.

 

[Quintillus]

You seem to have a bit of confusion over terms. Computer memory is abbreviated RAM (Randomly Accessable Memory). Thus it is impossible that the computer that has CivIII now has "tons of memory, but little RAM." I'm thinking what you mean is the slow computer needs all the hard drive space it can get, and a lack of it is why your parents don't want you to install it there. But I'm not sure.

It seems strange that you have the Internet connected to the slow computer. Why not move the anti-virus and Internet to the fast one? I'm guessing the reason is you like to play games and other people like to browse the Internet. But if not, this is a valid question.

The free anti-virus+router idea is good. Also check the license on the antivirus to see how many computers it can be installed on - I know at least Norton comes with three licenses.

 

[JDAllison]

I echo Quintillus: RAM and memory are the same thing. A new hard drive (what I think you are referring to when you say "memory") costs in the neighborhood of $80 to $100, and that might be another option for the computer that currently accesses the Internet. In fact, I would try that before purchasing a new flash drive, because it would be much faster (my 1GB flash drive is slower than my hard drive), and would cost just a little more. If you purchase it from Best Buy, you can get the Geek Squad to install it for you and copy over all your files from your old one to your new one. That will also cost you, but the fact that you don't have to do it is definitely worth the money.

The other options are, like Quintillus said, to move the antivirus and internet over to the other computer. Or even split the internet signal and send it to both computers simultaneously. I assume you know that a router is what takes the signal from the modem (either DSL or cable) and sends it to the computers connected to it, by wires or by wireless signal. I just bought one this week so my wife could get online with her laptop from the other end of the house. (And hopefully, we can play civ!! )

I hope this helps. If you have any further questions, just let us know.

 

[Bobv13]

but after playing against the really stupid AI, and beating the heck out of them on cheiftain, but getting tired of their stupid bonuses on harder levels, and always declaring war on my for no apparent reason, i got sick of playing them.

Option 3: Except diversity into your life by excepting the mentally challenged state of your PCs AI. Think of it as a real life lesson because this will not be the last time you will be penalizes for your abilities.

 

[drakdan]

Option 3: Except diversity into your life by excepting the mentally challenged state of your PCs AI. Think of it as a real life lesson because this will not be the last time you will be penalizes for your abilities.

Accept. It's accept. My 4th grade teacher imparted this knowledge to me, and now I give it to you.

Anyways, why not just hook up the civ3 computer to the internet? It's pretty easy to do, and at most you would need a few long cables.

 

[anaxagoras]

Accept. It's accept. My 4th grade teacher imparted this knowledge to me, and now I give it to you.

Anyways, why not just hook up the civ3 computer to the internet?

"Anyway." It's "anyway", which is an adverb and cannot be plural. My 4th grade teacher imparted this knowledge to me, and now I give it to you....

 

[CommandoBob]

Anyways, why not just hook up the civ3 computer to the internet? It's pretty easy to do, and at most you would need a few long cables.

I understood that his dad was opposed to the idea since that PC lacked anti-virus.

 

[Taras Bulba]

You seem to have a bit of confusion over terms. Computer memory is abbreviated RAM (Randomly Accessable Memory). Thus it is impossible that the computer that has CivIII now has "tons of memory, but little RAM." I'm thinking what you mean is the slow computer needs all the hard drive space it can get, and a lack of it is why your parents don't want you to install it there. But I'm not sure.

I echo Quintillus: RAM and memory are the same thing.

well... im no computer expert, but im just trying to remember how my brother said it.

all i know is
the computer that has civ III is slow, but can hold alot of stuff, and the computer that has internet is fast (haha, well, alot faster) and can hold less (not to count the fact that it is already is holding more stuff)

i.e.-computer w/ Civ III can hold 100 GB of memory, but is using 25 GB
computer w/ internet can hold 75GB, but is using 50GB

(i completely just made up those numbers, i have no idea what these computers can hold)

Im wondering if i could just install it, try it out, and if i need to, uninstall it... it might work

as for how many liecenses (spelling?) can my anti-virus hold, Im farely certain it is just 1, but im not completely certain.

PS-can i just instal the conquests part of my complete edition and use the multi-player, or is it just on complete?

 

[Bllasae]

1-could just coping the Conquest folder work?
2-are their files that i can crop out?
3-will i need a bigger flash drive?
4-or do i just need to beg and beg and beg some more to my parents to allow me to put it on the internet computer?

1.)Definitely not.
2.)Definitely not.
3.)Definitely yes.
4.)Definitely not sure.

 

[MAS]

I don't see why you can't just copy the Civ3 folder to an USB-flash stick.
Put the stick in the computer, put the play-disk in the DVD drive, and double click on the Civ3 application on the flash-stick as it appears...

My C3C folder is about 2GB, a 4GB flash stick cost about 40 EUR.

That said, I wonder, just how much is the the HD storage space on both computers?

My HD can hold about 150GB of data, but only 50GB is used.

 

[Bllasae]

I don't see why you can't just copy the Civ3 folder to an USB-flash stick.
Put the stick in the computer, put the play-disk in the DVD drive, and double click on the Civ3 application on the flash-stick as it appears...

It wouldn't work. The files also need swap data and it needs to make changes to the registry.

 

[Taras Bulba]

My C3C folder is about 2GB, a 4GB flash stick cost about 40 EUR.

That said, I wonder, just how much is the the HD storage space on both computers?

My HD can hold about 150GB of data, but only 50GB is used.

umm.... does 3.29 GHz, with 256 MB of RAM (the computer w/ internet) make any sense to that question... im not very smart when it comes to stuff like that

PS-i downloaded it on to the computer w/ the internet, since it had the space, but it won't open... i get a black screen, and then it goes back to normal... Im almost 100% certain that all of the requirements are up to date...

 

[MAS]

It wouldn't work. The files also need swap data and it needs to make changes to the registry.

What do you mean by "swap data"? read and write? One can write to a flash stick, no problem.

And I don't know about registry stuff.
I'm a mac user and such a thing I proposed would certainly work on my Mac. When the program is launched first time, it automatically creates a preference file in the preference folder on the system's HD, and leave it there, but thats only a 4kb file.
I don't see what it can't work on WindowsOS..

@Taras Bulba
No I'm talking about the capacity of the computers internal Hard Drive.

 

[Taras Bulba]

@Taras Bulba
No I'm talking about the capacity of the computers internal Hard Drive.

now my computers seem small, but idk, you may have a REALLY good one

Spoiler :

the computer that is holding Civ III complete now has
74.4 GB capacity
53.3 GB is free currently

the computer that has the internet has
38.3 GB capacity
16.7 GB is free currently

given the current situation, i doubt a new/bigger hard drive will be coming in the near future