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Jon Shafer Details Upcoming Patch

Discussion in 'News Updates' started by Ginger_Ale, Oct 11, 2010.

  1. Horizons

    Horizons Needing fed again!

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    As a long-time casual Civ enthusiast (since ~2000) I can tell you that the 'out of box experience' of Civ 5 is superior to both Civ3 and Civ4 when they were initially released. In fact it comes close to Civ2 in terms of sheer fun and enjoyability. Whether these initial impressions will wear off I don't know, I have only played the game for about 30 hours so far.:crazyeye:
     
  2. Moosezilla

    Moosezilla Grognard Warlord

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    They showed me long ago that all they are doing is trading on a title. Never wasted my cash on BtS and won't need to upgrade for another year at least. My dismay at this is quite tragic.
     
  3. Selous

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    i think you missed out then! BTS was awesome, coundnt imagine playing civ4 without it

    now civ5 .... i was happy enough with the changes, but the game just kinda sux and i dont feel any pull to play the game ... im waiting for a major patch and/or major mod to play another game, till then i shall keep playing minecraft (that game is like crack ... loving it)
     
  4. Hashishim

    Hashishim Prince

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    hmm maybe someone here can help me, i cant even open the world builder as each time i try it crashes. Not sure why, Since then i kinda lost interest in Civ5, Just hope this next patch sorts out that too. :(
     
  5. milk_milk

    milk_milk Chieftain

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    The game isn't perfect, but we feel good about the foundation laid so far, and expect Civ 5 will stand up with every other game out there and continue to get better over time. <--- I feel like a beta tester... Isnt this a confession of failure, such a phrase from the lead designer?!... Dumb people make games for dumb people? -.-
     
  6. Snoopy

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    Your opinion, and I don't think it's a popular view. The loss of religion is not a big deal. I have not experienced any Interface problems, perhaps it's the user, not the interface that has a problem. The 1UPT rule is one of the best enhancements to the Civ series, now I actually give a :):):):) about strategy.
     
  7. sburger

    sburger Chieftain

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    I agree the 1UPT gives it a great feel, especially in battle. But again, some exceptions should be made to make it more realistic (or consistent with other versions). Only 1 unit to escort a settler or worker (on the actual tile) is easily countered by 2 opponents attacking said tile unless you make a wall all around your settler with additional units... awkward&#12288;:rolleyes:. And the point made earlier about the inability to improve a tile because another players unit is standing on it. Exceptions should have been made. Thank God for modders!!:goodjob: Would have to wait forever to see any improvements..
     
  8. Balerion

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    Agree with every single word of both you and La Sage.
    I'm sorry but I don't like CivV.
     
  9. boxingkoala

    boxingkoala Chieftain

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    Now here is what I think. I am a player from day one. I spent sleepless nights when in Uni playing CIV 1 and still was heavily addicted by CIV 4 (just not quite as much time to devote due to wife and children).

    Now 2 of my children also got addicted by CIV 4 especially BTS and various MODS.

    CIV 5, well my kids do like it, but i am not finding there is that pull to have a sleepness night at the moment. I don't mind the game but am really keeping an eye out for those patches and hoping to damn high god that some great mods are released. My kids are enjoying the hexes and change military, but they are finding it much much easier and have expressed disappointment at no religion as they loved that part of it.

    Overall I am deeply disappointed inside. I will never bag the game heavily, but feel hollow with this game at the moment.

    Now for those that feel like this, lets hope it turns out like CIV 4 BTS. I am sure it has that potential.
     
  10. Anubisdk2

    Anubisdk2 God of the Underworld

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    I hear ya about the diplomacy. I was really excited at the thought, but perhaps I had my hopes up too high.
     
  11. hclass

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    Why didn't he visit this forum?
    I thought this should be a better place of Civ fans.
    This is online, he won't be drown by spittles of those being disappointed, anyway.
     
  12. mamba

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    I have the same issue, WB always hangs there, never getiign Civ 5 started I presume. There are some glitches in the modding tools (cannot upload a mod, ModBuddy just hangs there, slowdown of ModBuddy when editing 'large' files (a few hundred K of lua) which any freeware editor has no problem editing without any slowdown) and in the game itself (when I start the DX9 version directly, I cannot connect to the in-game mods, starting it via the 'selection screen' solves that, obviously not the smartest AI, giving away almost all cities after I killed a few units..

    But I feel most of them are easily fixed, there is no real design issue here. I prefer 1UPT and hexes, I have no problems with the interface, I never liked religions or espionage (in essence I ignored those in Civ 4), so I like most the design choices, now if they fix the glitches, everything is fine for me.

    And yes, most of them are so obvious (at least to me, but not everyone has all of them) that they never should have made it past beta.
     
  13. WuphonsReach

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    (flashback) I remember saying nearly the exact same thing about Master of Orion 3 - "there's a great game under the covers here".

    Hopefully, this isn't Civ's MOO3.

    But I hold that judgment in abeyance until we see major patches that address the issues.
     
  14. SIMPA

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    Come on people....:mad:
    When was the last time that any of you played basic BTS..:confused:
    CIV V is just released..it is complettly normal that game seems simple after Dale combat mod,Revolution,Better AI and other great mods in civ 4.
    Why everybody have to judge something that is just start to create...:confused:
     
  15. Hashishim

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    Its not really that hey @SIMPA the concept of the game is good, even civiv was good when first released, but the issue, i think is that theres too many bugs, and certain things that just never fit, and it does feel like it was a rushed release, There alot of features that are not available but should of been available maybe it'l be available in an expansion, Compared to CIVIV there where features in the vanilla version So the game felt "whole". At the moment it just feels bare! lol
     
  16. benjdm

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    The week before the Civ 5 release.
     
  17. Aussie_Lurker

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    I'm still playing-& modding-Civ4 BtS to this day :)! Now there is a game which "Stands the Test of Time" ;).

    Aussie.
     
  18. gdmast

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    ..."The plan is also to make major revisions to the diplomacy system,...."
    What???? Sometimes the game is difficult to start and crash/freeze after about 70 cities! The diplomacy is the first??? (of cource in diplomacy to change maps is very important)
    Well, i think that u must have a look to the forum, what the fanatics suggest to be the game playable (as i see, there are over 50 bugs/errors e.t.c to fix).
    I have a question. BEFORE the game becomes available to the market, they didn't check if it works??? How the peope that test it, finished a game (huge territoty)???? How checked the workers, the interface e.t.c.??? To this game is difficult even to load a game!!!! For example if u want to load a game (to continue), u dont see the last saved game, u have to search it!!! (after days u may not remember the saved name...). where is the world buider to play something different (civ 3 & 4) (i don't like sdk).
    well, please try to fix the (non cheap) civ 5 as soon as possible (yesterday!!!), because now the game we love is no perfect is almost bad
     
  19. javaja

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    Actually, I never felt the need to MOD BTS. I've played Civ since Civ 1 and I too have the same negative feelings -- but I also have the hope that some have expressed that they will edit it and improve it to the point that it is at least better than vanilla Civ IV.

    That being said, those of you who think that this game is "just as quirky out of the box as previous Civ games" are crazy. Every other Civ game to date has come out of the box with at least enough polish to not feel like it's in beta. Yes, Civ IV had bugs. Yes, Civ III had some similar feature conflicts. But no Civ game to date has had the amount or severity of issues that this does. If 2k rushed the dev team, it's their fault. If the dev team didn't properly test to rush it out, it's their fault. What it comes down to, is I Don't Know, and nobody else does... so here's to hoping they improve it to satisfy a great and loyal customer base. And if they don't... well, that'll be a pretty big mistake.

    Right now there are some die hard Civ fans that have enjoyed this series all their lives. And up 'til now every release has given those fans a reason for their fandom, justification for their appreciation of the series. The new features in V ARE great. The lackluster feel more than counters it though, and without a major overhaul I'll consider the series done as of IV BtS.
     
  20. digitalAngst

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    I sincerely hope the Devs won't cave to the legion of naysayers who want Civ5 turned into Civ4½.

    I mean, a plethora of twenty-page threads full of 'U SUK!!1', all the while the people who like Civ5 don't say nothing because they're busy actually playing the game is bound to create a very biased assessment of the current situation.

    Bring back religion? Uh, hello? We already have an entire policy tree full of religious doctrines.
    And the promised 'changes in the diplomacy system' make me very afraid they'll bring back the broken espionage at some time.


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