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Jon Shafer leaves Firaxis!

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by Windsor, Dec 21, 2010.

  1. Blitzscream

    Blitzscream Warlord

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    Really come on now really I don't like what he did either but wishing a life of misery for him I think that's pretty low.
     
  2. Well, either this means support for ciV will drop.:(

    Or it won't.:D

    And when VI rolls around we will get a new designer.
     
  3. Camikaze

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    My brazen and unsubstantiated speculation is that Shafer was simply not happy with 2K and thought it better to part ways than to continue in a direction he may not have been comfortable with.

    Whatever the reason, it certainly spices things up!
     
  4. Toulouse

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    Interesting news. Here's my take:

    1. If you like the game, Jon Shafer is your guy and you should be sorry to see him go. Civ V was his vision. With Shafer gone, it is apparent that the game will change in fundamental ways or be dropped all together soon enough.

    2. If you don't like the game, you should be glad that Jon Shafer is no longer involved with Civ. Someone new will be driving development of Civ V add-ons or a brand new Civ VI -- and that almost certainly means a big change of direction.

    I believe Shafer is gone because the book has now closed on his vision for Civ at 2K/Firaxis. I believe this is almost certainly because his vision did not result in a good game.

    Next, I believe we'll see a flurry of Civ V DLC released that was essentially in the pipeline; and then -- either Civ VI in 2012, or a big stand-alone expansion utilizing the new engine that will be much, much different than V.

    Civ V as we know is essentially over and I for one am happy about that. I can't help but believe most of us are....:)
     
  5. Blitzscream

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    Hey if he's leaving because of 2k I think he should be glad he wasn't apart of Activision. Oh gosh!!! Activision.
     
  6. tom2050

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    You can wish him well, or not wish him well. I am not wishing him well because I'm not wishing him anything. I don't care what he does or where he goes, as long as he doesn't return.

    This does not mean I am wishing him misery. If I wanted to wish him misery, I would have said "I wish Jon Shafer a miserable life", which I did not do.

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    Although, He wished us misery with his crappy release (which was pretty low), so in all fairness, we should be wishing him misery.
     
  7. Blitzscream

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    Well lets pray that Civilization can grow and prosper now.
     
  8. HedBanger

    HedBanger Chieftain

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    I don't really know what to think of this. I am slightly worried that this means the end of CiV. But this could be a sign that the development team will start making some much needed changes to game. I love CiV but I have admit it could use a LOT of improvements. We will just have to wait and see what the future holds.
     
  9. ezwip

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    The UI would look great in a ninja turtles video game.
     
  10. Blitzscream

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    da_Vinci Gypsy Prince

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    To live long and prosper, Civ needs Nimoy back! ;)

    dV
     
  12. bonafide11

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    He could've remained silent or said something more cryptic. There was no need for him to tweet anything or say anything about Firaxis. But he did, and he said positive things about them. I still imagine he was likely asked to leave, but I don't think it was as horrible of a situation as many of you want to believe.
     
  13. Brian Shanahan

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    Of course he's going to say positive things. If you're in a position where you've just recently left your job, you're not going to bad-mouth your previous employers, simply becasuse it'll come back and bite you in a lot of job interviews, e.g. "John we checked with your previous employers and they said while you're a talented developer, you have a bad attitude, argue with superiors a lot, and publicly disclose confidential company data. What skills do you think you have that will compensate for these big and obvious defects?" and he's going "Oh stercus, he's going on about the big F-U I gave 2K games on twitter and other media within a week of leaving them. What do I say?" This applies whether he left the job of his own volition, was told to jump or be pushed, was pushed with the semblance of jumping or straight out fired (although there is some chance of the F-U in that case as you don't depend on a job you're fired from for references).
     
  14. Eddogegr3

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    Even though it appears he is more of a figurehead these days, I wonder what Sid's opinion on this is?
     
  15. Senethro

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    Some great examples of fans any developer should be proud to have!
     
  16. joyous_gard

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    Hear hear. I don't agree with many of his game decisions, but it's the holidays and I hope he doesn't have one of those It's a Beautiful Life weekends or anything. Things will be good for everyone.

    EDIT: Is it Wonderful Life?? LOL! What a noob
     
  17. Islet

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    I'm a fan of the franchise, not of the developer, sorry.
     
  18. joyous_gard

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    Yeah I would like a statement from 2K about whether or not they are even supporting the game. What are their plans for the game? Etc.
     
  19. kosak

    kosak Chieftain

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    financially speaking, there's very little chance of support being dropped for civ 5

    there's a lot of money to be made off dlc's and expansions

    there's more profit in making an expansion and selling it for $30 than making a whole new game selling it for $50
     
  20. CivFanaticMan

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    Fixing the AI over and over again too much for Mr. Shafer?
     

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