Some of you are really ignorant in the ways of debating an issue. When the poster stated that there is a "difference between taking responsibility and demonizing" and then later indicated that he/she is not American, it is possible that English is a second language, and thus, they may not have noticed the error. Even if English is their first language, the ability to manipulate language in written form is not indicative of intelligence. Moreover, in a forum such as this, where age and nationality vary so greatly, poor sentence structure should be a somewhat forgiveable offense. Very few posters to this forum possess fantastic sentenceforming skills, and only a few more possess fantastic logical reasoning skills. Thus, to call someone out for displaying one or the other is petty and fruitless. What they obviously meant is "there is a difference between calling for a leader to take responsibility and demonizing that leader"... and I'm pretty sure most of you should have figured that out. You were simply jumping on a grammatical mistake because the poster was otherwise correct in his or her statements. Even if you disagree with those statements, you obviously did not have the counterpoints to attack, or else you would have rested your argument solely on your legitimate points and not on what amounts to a "point of order" due to someone's lack of control of a specific language. Stick to the point, which seems to be a pointless debate about what effect, if any, Shafer's departure will have on the future of the game. Personally, after Civilization IV:Colonization, I decided to not purchase Civilization V until well after its release. They showed some EPIC mistakes with Colonization (such asthe impossibly tedious task of selling commodities without a Customs House, which the original version included) and I saw no reason they would not make these mistakes again. Sadly, I was correct in that. I do agree that a leader has to take responsibility for the project- regardless of salary. In the end, when you accept a position, you are responsible for negotiating the financial incentives and then you are liable for the product. In the end, we all want the same thing: the gaming experience we are used to, with a better AI, better graphics, and more complexity and "real world" challenges.