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Jury awards father $11M in funeral case

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071031/ap_on_re_us/funeral_protests

A grieving father won a nearly $11 million verdict Wednesday against a fundamentalist Kansas church that pickets military funerals out of a belief that the war in Iraq is a punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.

Albert Snyder of York, Pa., sued the Westboro Baptist Church for unspecified damages after members demonstrated at the March 2006 funeral of his son, Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, who was killed in Iraq.

The jury first awarded $2.9 million in compensatory damages. It returned in the afternoon with its decision to award $6 million in punitive damages for invasion of privacy and $2 million for causing emotional distress.

Snyder's attorney, Craig Trebilcock, had urged jurors to determine an amount "that says don't do this in Maryland again. Do not bring your circus of hate to Maryland again."

Church members routinely picket funerals of military personnel killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, carrying signs such as "Thank God for dead soldiers" and "God hates fags."

A number of states have passed laws regarding funeral protests, and Congress has passed a law prohibiting such protests at federal cemeteries. But the Maryland lawsuit is believed to be the first filed by the family of a fallen serviceman.

The church and three of its leaders — the Rev. Fred Phelps and his two daughters, Shirley Phelps-Roper and Rebecca Phelps-Davis, 46 — were found liable for invasion of privacy and intent to inflict emotional distress.

Even the size of the award for compensating damages "far exceeds the net worth of the defendants," according to financial statements filed with the court, U.S. District Judge Richard Bennett noted.

Snyder claimed the protests intruded upon what should have been a private ceremony and sullied his memory of the event.

The church members testified they are following their religious beliefs by spreading the message that soldiers are dying because the nation is too tolerant of homosexuality.

Their attorneys maintained in closing arguments Tuesday that the burial was a public event and that even abhorrent points of view are protected by the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech and religion.

Earlier, church members staged a demonstration outside the federal courthouse. Church founder Fred Phelps held a sign reading "God is your enemy," while Shirley Phelps-Roper stood on an American flag and carried a sign that read "God hates fag enablers." Members of the group sang "God Hates America" to the tune of "God Bless America."

Snyder sobbed when he heard the verdict, while members of the church greeted the news with tightlipped smiles.
 
soldiers are dying because the nation is too tolerant of homosexuality.

Dear Gen Petraues I have found a new way of reducing US casualties. All we have to do is condem homosexuality and procecute gays. US deaths and wounded will plunge overnight.
 
Snyder sobbed when he heard the verdict, while members of the church greeted the news with tightlipped smiles.

When I read this I had a very 'Children of the Corn' moment. Creepy. :eek:
 
These people are as low as scum. It just seems wrong that people like this can breed.

But is this illegal? Harassment is illegal, but not protesting. So why sue? if this was illegal, why not just jail them?

Besides these very few, small mind hateful people, no one is against the people serving in Iraq. So its easy for the moral majority (what in this case is everyone in the US, minus these guys) to stand up to these people. But 11m, that seem way to much. Do these people even have 11M?

These people should be allowed to protest in Maryland, or any state they want. So long as they are not being disruptive of any funerals. If they are, then in that case it is Harassment, and they should be arrested.

BTW, for a little lulz, This is the face of the GODHATESFAGS.COM people.
 

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Civil and criminal courts play by different rules. OJ was innocent in a criminal trial and guilty in a civil one.
 
These people are as low as scum. It just seems wrong that people like this can breed.

But is this illegal? Harassment is illegal, but not protesting. So why sue? if this was illegal, why not just jail them?

Besides these very few, small mind hateful people, no one is against the people serving in Iraq. So its easy for the moral majority (what in this case is everyone in the US, minus these guys) to stand up to these people. But 11m, that seem way to much. Do these people even have 11M?

These people should be allowed to protest in Maryland, or any state they want. So long as they are not being disruptive of funeral. If they are, then in that case it is Harassment, and they should be arrested.

BTW, for a little lulz, This is the face of the GODHATESFAGS.COM people.
That photo is fodder for the Babe thread.
 
Glad to see them get slapped down. I still bet the settlement is greatly reduced on appeal.
 
Excellent. I'm wholeheartedly behind free speech, but harassing funeral mourners is beyond low. It is one of the most disgusting things to do in a society. A funeral is a catharsis for grieving family, and to not let them come to terms with their grief is harassment. Protest almost anywhere you like, but if you are intruding on a private, solemn affair, you are disturbing the peace.
 
Excellent. I'm wholeheartedly behind free speech, but harassing funeral mourners is beyond low. It is one of the most disgusting things to do in a society. A funeral is a catharsis for grieving family, and to not let them come to terms with their grief is harassment. Protest almost anywhere you like, but if you are intruding on a private, solemn affair, you are disturbing the peace.


Agree 100%...I'm all for free speech too, and I'm probably far more pro-free-speech than the average person, but what these scumbags are doing is over the top. If they held public rallies, wrote letters to the editor, went on TV and radio, etc. to carry their message they'd have every right to do so. But harassing people at a loved one's funeral should be grounds for a lawsuit.
 
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