Just 43 years until mandatory retirement

[1889]

In just 43 years the world’s leaders will be forced to retire. While the world may go on “for a few more turns” no further points will be earned. So in 2050 which nation will win and what type of victory will it be?

 

[flamingzaroc121]

Time victory for the person with the highest points

 

[NKVD]

Belgium...diplomatic victory...lol

 

[synthboy]

Time victory for the person with the highest points

But who has the highest points? The USA must be doing pretty good (landmass, population, technology and a fair few wonders) but China has to be coming up fast and that war business in Iraq isn't helping the US. No population to speak of, no land, no wonders and all that war weariness has to be crippling production. The US needs to pull out and invade Canada (for the land) and Mexico (for the population). That should see them through until 2050.

 

[Defiant47]

Either Switzerland for diplomatic victory, or United States for time victory. But all things considered, England should have won a domination victory a while ago (and maybe even Rome too).

 

[Viperace]

Insteresting thread

Lets just disable time victory. Maybe Soviet Union is secretly planning for space-race victory. But then it depends on which civ researches the Space Elevator first. After all, US already has the Apollo Program.

 

[LBaeldeth]

Well, England's empire only controlled 25% of total territory, and the Romans only managed 25% of the population. Isn't the limit closer to 66-70%?

The Mongols had a pretty good empire going, until it they tried to switch civics (sole leader to the various petty chiefs ... despotism to anarchy?). Then it just fell apart. It's too bad China lost that early tech lead, or they'd be in the driver's seat. I guess pumping culture didn't work out like they planned.

 

[Defiant47]

Well, England's empire only controlled 25% of total territory, and the Romans only managed 25% of the population. Isn't the limit closer to 66-70%?

The Mongols had a pretty good empire going, until it they tried to switch civics (sole leader to the various petty chiefs ... despotism to anarchy?). Then it just fell apart. It's too bad China lost that early tech lead, or they'd be in the driver's seat. I guess pumping culture didn't work out like they planned.

It's more like ~50% of land, 35-40% of population, so they were pretty close.

Also bear in mind that the Ottomans didn't do too bad, and they did adopt a ton of vassals, so they would have gotten half the score, and half the land and population for domination (probably still wouldn't have been enough).

 

[Sullla]

Civ4's scoring system is heavily weighted towards population (50% of the overall total). Therefore China and India look pretty good in real world terms...

 

[KMadCandy]

whoever has the most toys wins!

 

[1889]

...and that war business in Iraq isn't helping the US. No population to speak of, no land, no wonders and all that war weariness has to be crippling production.

The war has only been going for 3 turns, war weariness isn't the problem. President Bush should just have been up front and explained that The Hanging Gardens are a great late game wonder, +1 health and population in all our cities would be huge for us right now, also all that tourist gold.

 

[BeefontheBone]

Ah, but it was obsolete a few years ago.

 

[Dominico]

lolz great thread. I think Rome won it though, they were playing on a smaller map and pretty much had it all conquered. Just someone pressed the "continue game" button after they got the victory screen. Now we are playing for fun!

 

[CivSetä]

Why no one is trying cultural victory?

 

[feldmarshall]

Why no one is trying cultural victory?

3 legendary cities? alexander the great perhaps? muslim empire?

 

[CivSetä]

3 legendary cities? alexander the great perhaps? muslim empire?

You're right, that's why some muslim nations are so backwards - they have turned science slider to 0%!

 

[Ankh-f-n-Khonsu]

I'm surprised China is bothering to build the Apollo Project at this late date; they'll never get launched in time.

USA wins, cultural. Sorry.

 

[Winston Hughes]

USA wins, cultural.

We English have already won a cultural victory: almost everyone seems to speak our language, follow the sport we invented (football; the proper kind, where the 'foot' actually meets the 'ball' regularly), and/or listen to the Beatles.

 

[KMadCandy]

We English have already won a cultural victory: almost everyone seems to speak our language, follow the sport we invented (football; the proper kind, where the 'foot' actually meets the 'ball' regularly), and/or listen to the Beatles.

you know, that is kind of odd about Civ. there could be some kind of Tower of Babel wonder, or Babelfish tech, before you can talk to the other civs. sure, we need alphabet, but we don't all use the same one IRL. how do we know what the incans/mongols mean by their "football" automatically? then again i play for fun and CBA about realism, i don't know much history at all. did the mongols even play football?

 

[Ankh-f-n-Khonsu]

With the heads of their opponents, yes.