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Just look at this and be amazed !!!

Discussion in 'Civ4Col - We The People' started by raystuttgart, Mar 24, 2020.

  1. raystuttgart

    raystuttgart Civ4Col Modder

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    I have not yet played his mod either, since he has not fully released it yet. :dunno:
    He wrote however that he is going to release it at some point. :thumbsup:

    But a few things I know or understood:

    A) His mod is based on original TAC 2.03. (Which RaR was originally also based on.)
    TAC itself already has much less features and micromanagement than WTP.

    B) Melcher wrote that he additionally removed specialized "Expert Units" and replaced them by "Citizen Classes".
    (Poor People, Colonists, Patricians, Nobles, Priests, ... that focus on different types of work but are generally more flexible.)

    That is probably the biggest change he implemented compared to TAC.
    This however also implied that he had to change lots of dependent things like Buildings, Founding Fathers, Events, ...

    Summary:
    His mod is most likely to be described as streamlined version of TAC with better looking Screens and better Graphics. --> less micromanagement and more "eye candy"
    Thus it is definitely very different from WTP, which is a heavily expanded version of TAC that trippled the amount of gameplay (features, Units, Yields, Professions, ...). --> more micromanagement and strategies

    Me too, it is always good for community to have choices between different mods that experience and enjoy different gameplay. :)
    And of course the different mods can cooperate and share their work, so everybody profits.
     
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  2. Lord Chambers

    Lord Chambers Emperor

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    The images got my hopes up that the WTP team had decided to reduce the number of goods in the game. I thought perhaps they had noted there is very little meaning in 20 goods instead of 10, except to the new player who has yet to memorize the yields and the experienced one when he makes the mistake of making the tile yields visible.
     
  3. Hibernian

    Hibernian Chieftain

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    I think it's great to have tons of different goods. I grow whatever I find so each game is a bit different. Never get to grow everything in one game anyway.

    My hopes are on a game with the graphics shown above - especially the world map - plus the content of WTP.
     
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    raystuttgart Civ4Col Modder

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    Hi guys, just to clarify any potential confusions.

    The images that are shown are not from WTP, they are from Melcher Kürzer's personal mod.
    We would definitely like to integrate at least some of his improvements into WTP, but it will be quite a bit of effort and thus take time to do so.

    We currently have no plans to remove any goods or Yields, but we are planning to make some of them more important for gameplay.
    (e.g. for building Buildings, using them for Health or Happiness by Domestic Market)
     
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    Did Melcher ever come back to you on that ?
     
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    raystuttgart Civ4Col Modder

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    No, not yet. :dunno:

    A change like that would also be too big for the moment.
    Things take their time and currently the situation is quite difficult ...
     
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    This is not unusual, he generally does not answer to any questions or e-mails or posts or anything else you might try to contact him. I tried it over the years several times... :dunno:
     
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  9. Mr. ZorG

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    а когда он последний раз был на форуме?
     
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    raystuttgart Civ4Col Modder

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    English please. ;)
    Otherwise I start posting in my German dialect (Schwäbisch). :mad::p
     
  11. Mr. ZorG

    Mr. ZorG Warlord

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    oops))) copied from Google not what is needed)))
    when was he last on the forum?

    The last screenshots make me very happy. however, like the very first)
    looking forward to even an unfinished but playable version of his mod. and I really hope that he will agree to cooperate with our team. WTP will be even more beautiful.
     
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    End of Juli.
    But he wrote that he might publish his mod end of the year.

    Me too. :)

    Well, he will most likey cooperate by sharing his mod and answering questions to his changes.
    But it is quite unlikely that he will do all the work necessary for adding his changes to WTP himself.
     
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    at the end of July, the last message from him. he could read but write nothing. like me))

    yes, he alone is unlikely to do anything.
    but I know one German who wants to help him with this:mischief: and then others will join)):grouphug:
     
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    raystuttgart Civ4Col Modder

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    This is sooo amazing ... :faint:
    (Those are some of the newest screenshots Melcher Kürzer had posted.)







     

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    It is unbelievable - almost like a new game. To have this in WtP would be amazing
     
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    It is freakin unbelievable! The landscape and graphics are insanely good. :cool:
     
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    my thought:
    • oh look the topic it is click bait
    • ok take a look
    • wow
    • speachless
     
  18. DARCK-PHOENIX

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    wow ... this is better than civ6
     
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