Hey SGers, since its Holiday Break and I'm going to have some free time, I felt like joining/starting a SG. Unfortunately, a quick look at this forum showed me that most of the SGs were out of my range. I usually play Emperor or Monarch, and I think an always war deity game or limiting yourself to one or three cities while attempting a conquest victory is somewhat out of my range. So here's what I propose: Variant is eugenics, in which we believe that all other civs are inferior and there culture is obsolete. We must not buy or take any technology from them, or keep any of there culture around (raze everything). We however, can use slave labor, so that our superior people will not have to always do the menial labor of our society. The eventual goal is to propel ourselves to the stars without the help or any trade with any other civilization (Peace treaty is a trade). This includes spying. Difficulty level is monarch or emperor, I do not mind emperor if the other players are confident. I would prefer a large map, continents, with all vic conditions on, except wonder. 48-48 for got it and play sound reasonable to me. I would like to try one of the lesser used civs, such as Portugal and Hittites. If anyone would like to roll a few starts and play out a few turns, thats f ine with me. Anyone interested? Tentative Rules- Civ: Portugal Map: Large, Continents, default weather and terrain Barbs: Roaming All Vic Conditions On, except Wonder Variant: AWM, no technology from other civs ever, including TGL, trading, and spying. Captured cities are always raze. To keep with the tech theme, I would prefer to win by space, although if we get that far we could probably win by conquest. But space is the desired vic. I also think we should get fascism and switch as soon as we go Industrial, to keep with the eugenics thing. Start: Spoiler : 48/48 for got it/play, 20-10-10-10-etc. turns Roster- Kraznaya Tasslehoff TheOverseer714 ? Elephantium ( (?) perhaps next week) Known Lurkers- CommandoBob El J NEW: http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/62725/Potential_Start1.SAV Here's the 4000 BC save in case anyone is interested.